Film Junk Podcast Episode #765: Tenet

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0:00 – Intro
17:30 – Review: Tenet
59:45 – Other Stuff We Watched: Class Action Park, Action Point, Sputnik, Deja Vu, Cobra Kai, Road Games, Broadcast News
1:46:40 – This Week on DVD, Blu-ray and VOD
1:52:05 – Outro
1:55:23 – Spoiler Discussion: Tenet

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  • Jonnie123

    I’ve said it in Twitter and I’ll say it here. Frank is afflicted with Nolan cancer. Obviously pronunciation is important :)

  • Blake in Boston

    The theatrical experience is BACK! The theatrical experience is DEAD.

  • ThisGuy01

    The Nolan sickness is NOLAN-19.
    It’s incredible contagious and while most people are asymptomatic some cases can have debilitating symptoms and even death.

  • Ben Bueno

    Nolangitis?

  • devolutionary

    He’ll definitely need a Nolanoscopy to remove the tumor!

  • devolutionary

    I’m pretty much in agreement with the Junkers. It felt like 3-4 hours of plot frenetically crammed into a 2+ hour movie. This might not be a popular opinion, but it could have been improved as a two-parter. Exposition flies by so fast that you’re struggling to keep up so maybe a re-watch will improve? But I just stopped caring because I felt detached from all these characters.

  • Jonnie123

    I’m in agreement too. Much to like about the film. I loved the reverse score during the truck break in for example, but it was super confusing being unable to hear 60% of the dialogue. This was a great episode of the podcast though.

  • Filmsguy

    I hate to say it, but the disease is obviously Stage 4 Nolan Cancer.

  • Beat_C

    Can’t believe Frank is coming for Sean for giving “Tenet” two stars when he’s the one suffering from Nolaneurysm. Gving this movie 4 stars is ludicrous.

  • Blake in Boston

    Nolanfluenza?

  • windh

    I’d say Frank suffers from occasional spout of Irritable Nolan Syndrome…

  • Kevin Cardoza

    One thing I do completely agree with Frank on is that I prefer time travel concepts that don’t take things too seriously.

    I feel like sometimes those stories get a free pass because there is a belief that just because it follows a hard-to-follow path it’s very well-written, which I don’t understand. Time travel narratives by their nature usually end up simplistic and goofy, because once you establish that everything is connected to each other you can usually see where things are going. Which is why the Back to the Future movies work because they don’t take it too seriously. The grimdark atmosphere of Dark on the other hand makes the show insufferable to me.

    Convoluted and complex are not the same thing. You can just as easily make a very hard-to-follow chart with all the connections in a daytime soap opera or a paperback murder mystery series. Good writing is determined by whether those connections and the motivations of characters for causing those connections feel believable. Otherwise, it starts feeling like the joke at the end of Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure where they just say what they are going to do with the time machine which instantly causes it to happen.Yes, it’s all one big complicated loop, but who cares if the characters feel like automatons set up for that loop to happen?

    On that note, plan on reviewing the new Bill & Ted?

  • Matej Jozanovic

    Nolio?

  • Kevin Cardoza

    Especially harmful to Frank who is already recovering from Tarantino Syndrome. I recommend a weekly Criterion force-feed until conditions improve, but it may already be too late.

  • Blake in Boston
  • Len F.

    You guys doing any TIFF movies this year? Looks like there are a few different viewing options.

  • Sean

    Yes we will be reviewing it on the next show.

    Just to be clear, Tenet takes itself pretty damn seriously. But I hear you about Dark… it’s starting to wear me down in the second season. It wouldn’t hurt to have someone crack a smile once in a while.

  • Sean

    I was just looking at buying a few single tickets but their website is a disaster right now. (As per usual.)

  • I agree almost entirely with Jay’s feelings towards this movie, but still… Dude, were you even watching? All these things you “missed” were not hidden or weird or hard to understand. They were laid out pretty plainly for the most part.

  • parapa

    TENET SPOILERS

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    Frank: I think the movie does indeed end at the very beginning. The Opera is happening concurrently with the final battle (the CIA dude in the hospital where protag wakes up mentions an explosion that was reported in Russia at the time of the attack). Also, the Opera is relevant in that I believe this is where the 8th of the 9 artifact pieces gets stolen. We see Washington’s team grab it, and then they get captured (and tortured) by presumably Branagh’s henchmen, who retake it. So this is where he literally stumbles into the villain plot for the first time (and where Pattinson saves him for the 1st time). Also, I don’t know if you guys missed it as it didn’t seem to come up in the spoiler discussion, but Pattinson also saves Washington in the climax of the film, sacrificing himself and catching a bullet. When he’s walking away at the end to “do another pass”, that’s him going to his death. So there are technically 3 versions of him running around in that battle I believe.

  • LittleStalin
  • @jay Did your Arrow Pitch Black come with a slipcover? Mine didn’t. I ordered through Amazon.

  • Keep going; it’s worth it. You have to give it credit for just being extremely well written. It’s confusing but amazingly not a mess.

    And it actually ends properly… unlike some other big name TV shows that can’t figure out how to end.

  • Sean

    I will do my best. Still enjoying it, just not feeling myself drawn back as much as I was previously.