Film Junk Podcast Episode #759: Greyhound + First Cow

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0:00 – Intro
19:10 – Review: Greyhound
39:15 – Review: First Cow
1:00:20 – Other Stuff We Watched: The Hateful Eight, Doctor Cyclops, Das Boot (1981), Targets, The Day the Earth Caught Fire, Out of the Past, Family Ties, The Falcon and the Snowman, Dark: Season 1, Floor is Lava
1:33:30 – This Week on DVD, Blu-ray and VOD
1:36:30 – Outro

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  • Beat_C

    Peak cynical cheel this week ???? But yeah, I was surprised as well that Sean didn’t know how the German word “Boot” was pronounced, haha.

    PS what do you mean, “no show next week”??

  • Nuno

    In Sean’s defence, my introduction to Das Boot was the SCTV spoof, Das Boobs https://youtu.be/gSyjxqsixtY so I always thought it was pronounced like the English “boot”.

  • Lori Cerny

    Dark was interesting, but I didn’t think it got really good until episode 8. The whole thing is dreary, though.

    Anyone know of a good character chart?

  • Lior

    In the German pronunciation, “Das Boot” sound very similar to how Sean pronounces it, even if it’s not 100 percent correct. Pronouncing it “boaaaaaat” is just as weird as pronouncing it “boooooot”. The truth is somewhere in the middle. But when I pronounce it I say it the same way as Sean did because it’s closer to the way it sounds when spoken. It’s a foreign word. It’s very odd to say it with an English pronunciation.

    Not all German military personnel were necessarily Nazis. Some generals in the army did not agree with Hitler’s growing madness, and at some point there was even a conspiracy within the military to assassinate him (portrayed in the movie Valkyrie). That’s not to say that the military was not to blame of course, the German military is responsible for many atrocities, but there is a distinction between regular military and SS/Gestapo troops. These branches of the German forces were directly associated with Nazi party and performed their duties with ideological zeal. The men portrayed in “Das Boot” are for the most part just “doing their job”. The navy was deep beneath the waves, seeing the war through the lens of the periscope. Navy crews had minimal interaction with actual enemy soldiers or civilians. The German U-boats wreaked havoc along the shipping lanes and were considered a very dangerous enemy. Anyway, It’s an interesting film simply because it shows the other side.

    A fun trivia fact about Das Boot: the submarine also appears in Raiders of the Lost Ark. The Raider’s crew filmed in the same studios around the same time, and simply borrowed it. Well, maybe not “simply”, but….

  • JC

    Been a long time seen I watched Das Boot , must get on it. I really enjoyed Greyhound, didnt mind the CG it was pretty obvoius but didnt get in the way. Loved the technical stuff wouldnt have minded more strategy. I thought I read something ages ago that the germans did put out propagandist messages over radio to nearby forces, cant remember if it related to U-boats though.

  • Lior

    I didn’t see Greyhound so can’t comment. The U-boat war was highly psychological. Allied ships were terrified of them, with propaganda or without. But the conditions in these U-boats, as portrayed in Das Boot, were extremely difficult. You needed a very high degree of stamina and nerves of steel to serve on such a vessel. Another good movie on the subject (though not to the level of Das Boot) is U-571, which was mentioned on the show.

  • Deven Science

    The English “boot” is pretty close to correct.

  • Deven Science

    I’ve just got an episode or two left, but I love Dark. Love it. My wife is much more confused by who’s who than I am, and she keeps wishing for a Talking Dead type of show to help her sort it out. I admit that season 3 is even scrambling my brains a bit.

  • Blake in Boston

    We are going to forever be living in a pre-Tenet world: https://variety.com/2020/film/news/tenet-delayed-again-christopher-nolan-1234699068/

  • Ben Bueno

    I really liked First Cow, like most Reichardt movies I wasn’t blown away, but still thoroughly enjoyed it. Can’t hate that type of bromance, and those donuts…

  • Ben Bueno

    Also, although the comment sections are pretty sparse this year, I just wanna say I love listening to you guys and your work is really appreciated, I’m sure by a lot of people.
    Thanks for doing this!

  • TimC

    A lot of the conversation seems to have moved to the Patron comments. I’m glad that so many are donating, and am happy to do so myself, but it is unfortunate that the show discussions are now split.

  • Beat_C

    indeed very unfortunate.

  • Beat_C

    i guess most FJ listeners are from north america, but i just wanted to report that movie theaters have been open for a month or so now here in switzerland. everything seems to be going well. the problem is: there are hardly any new movies to show … i hope that’s a chance for movies that otherwise would go straight to streaming.

  • Sean

    We do make the posts public on Patreon once they go up on the regular site so that anyone can read the comments there but yeah, we have no real solution for this currently. We have contemplated just shutting down the regular site and making Patreon our official site. It would simplify things a lot.

  • TimC

    That makes sense, I’m sure it’s a lot of work to keep multiple platforms updated. Maybe, as an intermediate step, you could remove the regular site’s comments section, and just link to the public Patreon post.