Film Junk Podcast Episode #716: Synecdoche, New York + Best of 2008 Revisited


0:00 – Intro
16:30 – Film Junk Re-review: Synecdoche, New York
54:20 – Feature: Top 10 Movies of 2008 Revisited
1:46:00 – Headlines: Top Gun: Maverick Trailer, Jay and Silent Bob Reboot Trailer, Cats Trailer
2:06:15 – Other Stuff We Watched: Petulia, Shotgun Stories, Robbery, Ballast, The Meg, Burn After Reading, Nite Owl
2:23:10 – This Week on DVD and Blu-ray
2:25:15 – Outro

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  • Falsk

    Bless you, whoever put in a late night edit to have this baby up for my morning commute. ????

  • Lior

    I went to see Synecdoche, New York when it came out and absolutely hated it. I hated what it was saying about the human condition, and found it soul-sucking and depressing, and not depressing in a good way. And I hated it because I refused to believe in the vision it was offering. It felt pretentious without making any real point.

    I haven’t watched it since then, and I have no idea what I would think about it today.

    I did watch Kaufman’s Anomalisa and liked it quite a bit. It seems to be concerning itself with much of the same themes of isolation and illusion but presenting them in a more humane, compassionate way.

  • Jr

    Good year…Beverly Hills Chihuahua for the win.
    Show some love for the forgotten Mamet classic Redbelt ya’ll.

  • Todd S. Gallows

    Sean, I haven’t gotten further yet because I’m on a set with horrendous wi-fi/reception so the download keeps crapping out after 20 seconds, but I wanted to address the Kaufman Netflix movie comment. As far as I know, it’s still going ahead. This is Why I’m Ending Things went into Principal Photography in March. I’m hoping for a TIFF release, but I think that’s a little too close. The novel it’s based on wafer thin so it shouldn’t be too much to film. But knowing Kaufman, the source material really isn’t an indication of anything and it could be another movie about him trying to adapt the novel and just making himself a character again.

    That said, it’s alive and well, it was the FX Pilot How and Why that got shot down. But even that exists somewhere.

  • Nic

    Great to see a 2h30 show again! Thanks for the awesome work you do every week.
    Regarding the box office discussion: From my time as a theater employee I can say that my bosses were juicing b.o. numbers pretty frequently to fulfill certain quotas. So I think there were definitely some ways for Disney to push Avengers to the top. But who is to say that Fox didn’t do the same back in the day with Avatar?! I generally don’t understand why the discussion about highest grossing movies of all time still doesn’t acknowledge inflation. If you account for that Gone With The Wind is still the highest grossing film of all time!

  • Sean

    Thanks for the update. Definitely looking forward to this.

  • Sean

    I did some more digging after the show and apparently they did re-release Endgame in India, which might have been the thing that put them over the top. But yeah, I think there is a ton of room for juicing when it comes to this stuff.

    It’s a great point about everyone ignoring inflation. But if they didn’t, no one would ever break any of the old records and it’s such a great marketing tool for the studios.

  • Nic

    True, it’s purely a marketing tool at this point. Just puts things in perspective when you actually look at a list that accounts for inflation.

  • Love Synecdoche, New York. A true masterpiece of cinema. Glad you picked it as a main review (hopefully at least one of you liked it once I’m getting to check the episode out).

  • devolutionary

    Sean, don’t feel too defensive over Funko. I’ve never cared for them, but was gifted and recommended a few Alien related properties (Xeno/Neomorphs). They’re semi-cool looking and a couple were even nicely designed. But I’m probably not acquiring anymore.
    Funny enough, this dude is a hardcore collector and reviewer of Alien-related figurines. Worth a read at least (for Jay C?).

    Synecdoche NY was one of those films I saw in the theatre and thought was ok; rewatched on a rental and started enjoying more. Like an Escher painting, it feels like a movie that would reward multiple rewatches from different perspectives over time. I think that helps ease you into Caden’s massive, crazy headspace.

  • devolutionary

    Redbelt is surprisingly solid. Not a conventional martial arts sports drama either. Early lead role for Chiwetel Ejiofor.

  • Jr

    I just watched it for the first time today. It was pretty great. I don’t know if it’s going to make my day better or worse but it’s a five banger for sure.

  • Tommy

    Guessing the Jojo Rabbit trailer didn’t come out in time for the record.

  • Matt the Kiwi

    It immediately jumped to my ‘most anticipated’ list. Looks like it’ll be as quirky as it is funny. Shame they didn’t chat about it this episode as it would have been a nice tie in to the Jeremy Renner music video (Taika Waititi is in it a fair bit…even as a hot dog).

  • Newtman98

    This is an even better Jeremy Renner song that just came out. I don’t know why older, successful actors turned singers all sound exactly like this, but they do. This could have just as easily been Kiefer Sutherland, Russell Crow or Bruce Willis.

  • colin the dude

    You guys didn’t miss much in rewatching Hellboy 2. IMHO it does not hold up that well. May be the weakest G del T film.

  • Matt the Kiwi

    I really enjoy these ‘Year Revisited’ episodes but what I would love is for the boys to do pretty much any year from the 80’s. So many tough choices and so hard to distinguish that nostalgia love from more “objective” quality film making ranking. Take 1984 for example…good luck choosing what order to put Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones & Temple of Doom, Terminator, Beverly Hills Cop, Nightmare on Elm Street, Killing Fields, Gremlins, StarMan, Romancing the Stone and so on, in. And of course, Splash. Honourable mention, Sheena?

  • Fletcher Thomas

    Great episode. Thanks guys!

  • Tommy

    RDJ’s music is the funniest.
    His pronunciations are so strange.

  • devolutionary

    Really? I’ve seen it twice and enjoyed it equally both times. At one point I thought it was way weaker than the first but I think that feeling has wavered. You actually think Mimic might be better? I like the concept of Mimic, but direction-wise?, no way.

  • devolutionary

    Andrew James, and Squirt Half-a-Yard over at Row Three did a massive 1984 Revisited series a few years back. Might be hard to track those episodes now, but it was epic. I distinctly remember that they left out “Killing Fields” though, a glaring omission. Amadeus was another huge one.

  • Matt the Kiwi

    Excellent, thanks mate – will definitely check this out to see how they manage it. Killing Fields is still in my top 50 movies of all time but is so good it’s almost timeless so perhaps that’s why it’s not immediately front-of-mind when people think of “80’s movies”.

  • Indianamcclain

    I might surprised Cloverfield didn’t make any list. I recall it being on either Jay, or Sean’s list back in the day.

  • Isn’t this similar to Oscar nominations, meaning: there will always have to be an omission. Like Matt insinuated: You got more than a dozen awesome movies and not only have to pick ten out of these but also rank them.

  • devolutionary

    If you’re specifically referring to the format here, absolutely. Row Three’s plan was reviewing at least one major or important film from 1984 weekly on the Cinecast. This played out over a long period and lead to some great discussion. No mini summaries or rankings there.

  • Lior

    My favorite movies from 2008, most of them not mentioned on the show:

    In Bruges
    The Fall
    The Dark Knight
    The Life Before Her Eyes (extremely underrated and underseen)
    Tropic Thunder
    Happy-Go-Lucky (fantastic Mike Leigh film)
    The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (had no problem with Fincher going “soft”, amazing movie)

    Honorable mentions:

    Cloverfield (still the king of the found footage sub-genre)
    Be Kind Rewind
    Quarantine (great remake!)
    Valkyrie (the movie where Cruise met Christopher McQuarrie)
    The Wrestler

  • nate_austin75

    Sean and Jay, thanks for mentioning Ballast which seems to be a forgotten indie film that is worth checking out. Martyrs and In Bruges are the two movies not mentioned on the show currently in my top ten of 2008.

  • Deven Science

    Timecrimes is a fantastic movie.