Film Junk Podcast Episode #704: The Assassination of Jesse James… + Best of 2007 Revisited

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0:00 – Intro
12:50 – Film Junk Re-review: The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
46:30 – Feature: Top 10 Movies of 2007 Revisited
1:39:40 – Other Stuff We Watched: Ratatouille, Breach, Game of Thrones
1:49:30 – This Week on DVD and Blu-ray
1:50:25 – Outro

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  • colin the dude

    Statistically probable. Our Milky Way is the size of a star in the biggest known galaxy. Anything’s possible.

  • Agree anything is possible. Just, the more I read on the subject the more convinced I am humans will NEVER detect intelligent life. I kinda hope I’m wrong.

  • Have an upvote. Michael Clayton is such a wonderful, adult political thriller.

  • Yeah it’s so good. Also surprised no one had Rescue Dawn or Bug in their list.

    And you guys gotta get in Walk Hard. It’s hilarious. Especially with Todd Haynes’ “I’m Not There” coming out the same year.

    Ranking 2007 https://boxd.it/s4m

  • Lior

    Frank, you are not alone.
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/simulation/do-we-live-in-a-virtual-reality

    Tom Campbell is a distinguished physicist studying the field of consciousness and the theory that we are living in a simulation. To me personally it makes sense, it jives with quantum theory and many other things in the world. He likes to compare the world to a video game where the system only renders your surroundings as you observe them and participate in them, in order to conserve processing power. However, in Campbell’s theory this is not some cold entity as in the Matrix films which is enslaving us (even though we do enslave ourselves many times because we cannot realize it’s a simulation), but a benevolent conscious system where the purpose is for us to evolve as human beings.
    It’s all pretty heady stuff and extremely profound and deep. I encourage everyone who has interest in this topic to study Campbell’s work.

  • So you bought a ticket to Avengers… Out of loyalty to Film Junk? What?

  • OsoDuck

    The philosophical notion that everything is an illusion has been around for millennia. It is called solipsism. An idea very much the same as “it’s all a simulation.” In Hinduism it’s a religious belief. Frank’s going after those Indian Kali powers. Kali ma, shakti de.

    Wikipedia: “The earliest reference to Solipsism is found in Hindu philosophy in the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, dated to early 1st millennium BCE. The Upanishad holds the mind to be the only god and all actions in the universe are thought to be a result of the mind assuming infinite forms. After the development of distinct schools of Indian philosophy, Advaita Vedanta and Samkhya schools are thought to have originated concepts similar to solipsism.”

    The concept is also found in Catholicism, where the only truth that can be trusted is the concept of God, which transcends the dream-like nature of the world and our own existence.

    However, the world and especially our beings are concrete enough that it would seem to exclude any notion that everything is a fluid dream world. The idea seems to stem from those who have become lost in their own detached intellects and imaginations, having failed to keep their feet firmly planted on the ground, as the saying goes.

  • Lior

    Look into Campbell’s theories, which are devoid of any religious dogma. The concrete nature of the world does not mean it’s the ultimate reality. It’s just a very powerful illusion. Quantum Mechanics teaches us that at it’s deepest level, reality is unreal but made of electrons, energy. This has vast ramifications on our perception of the world. I’m not surprised the idea has been echoed over millennia by different faiths, but at its core its a matter/energy equation. The idea behind a simulation isn’t that it’s a “dream world” and thus have no consequence, but that we should realize that reality is bigger than what we think it is and so we cling to it less. It’s a freeing concept. Of course, at the end of the day it’s not provable, so it’s a matter of what feels right to you. The experiment now being propagated on Kickstarter by Campbell is an attempt to yield some quantifiable results from this idea.

  • Jason

    Yes that is typically considered a good way to support a medium you like, by actually giving a shit and viewing the films they choose to highlight. Of course I also donate to the podcast regularly as well before you retort on that…

  • Okay, I just think if you’re sick of people being excited for these movies and the state of cinema they’ve created, then going to see it opening weekend isn’t much of a resistance. You can still listen and support the show without seeing the movie. But I can understand wanting to have context for their review, so no shame from me.

  • devolutionary

    Best film of 2007 for me which I never saw that year was 4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days. Waaaay late on seeing that one; Palm D’Or winner too. Starts off as a conventional Romanian drama and slowly turns the cranks on the political tension and social dispair surrounding the leading lady attempting an illegal abortion.

  • Lior

    I just watched that unearthed 2007 video podcast someone posted a while ago, maybe last week? (thanks, someone!) I loved all those movie clips interspersed in-between, it felt like an old-school movie magazine. Was this just a one-off thing? My conclusions below:

    – Video podcast format really works well with Film Junk
    – Jay looks like he hasn’t aged a day.
    – Reed behaves like he hasn’t aged a day.
    – It makes you really miss Greg
    – the set-up is a bit bizarre, it looks like Sean is interviewing Greg and Jay for a job opening.
    – Eastern Promises? Anybody still talking about this film?

  • Jay had Bug on his 2005 list.

  • OsoDuck

    You’re right, it’s not the ultimate reality. It came from nothing, but it is a reflection of the divine artist that brought it into being, so it is safe to trust it. If not, it’s a giant nightmare.

    There’s no way to test if you’re in a simulation because all of the experimental testing equipment is part of the simulation.

  • Besides the others mentioned, I’m a little surprised no one had GONE BABY GONE on their list. It wasn’t even mentioned. Ben Affleck’s first time behind a camera and it was easily his best as well as one of the best of the year. Any other year it would be top five on any list.

  • Nobody

    I was also expecting Gone Baby Gone to be mentioned; I wanted to hear Frank go in on the opening again.

    As for other 2007 movies, I’m one of the few that really liked My Blueberry Nights despite its weaknesses. In the Valley of Elah isn’t a great movie but has another great 2007 Tommy Lee Jones performance. Johnnie To’s Exiled is an awesome action movie. I’d consider Paprika a big one from the year – it’s a real mindfuck and the Inception comparisons can be interesting to consider when looking at how differently Satoshi Kon and Nolan approached that kind of material.

    And since Sean and Jay liked Lee Chang-dong’s Burning, they should definitely catch up with Secret Sunshine sometime, although that’s just a 2007 premiere, not a US release. Elite Squad also falls into that category. I love that movie but don’t recall if any of the guys saw it.

  • I also really like My Blueberry Nights! But for some reason I have it on my 2008 list. LetterBoxd says 2007. Same goes with 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days.

  • Isildur_of_Numenor

    Out of all the MCU movies, Guardians 2 is the strongest emotionally; of course, that’s just my opinion. Give a listen to this when and if you have the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VulkN5OLEM.

  • gibson8

    Brilliant casting choice.

  • gibson8

    Let the truth set you free brother!

  • Nobody

    Oh, you’re right. I checked and they’re both actually 2008 US releases.

  • James Collins

    Sorry if this has been covered but is there an update on the episode 700 pins?

  • Sean

    We have the design pretty much finalized, should be getting them printed up in the next week or so!

  • James Collins

    Thanks. :)