Film Junk Podcast Episode #699: Captain Marvel

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0:00 – Intro
12:10 – Review: Captain Marvel
46:45 – Other Stuff We Watched: Leaving Neverland, Wanderlust, Fighting with My Family, Losers, Rollerball, The Adventures of Captain Marvel, Your Highness, Clue, Umbrella Academy
1:40:35 – Outro
2:03:15 – Spoiler Discussion: Captain Marvel

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  • Brian.M

    Barely into the episode – have to say I like the film clip pre review., even if it is a bad of a public radio thing. It sets the mood for the main feature review. It’s a small but idiosyncratic part of FJ.

  • Bryan Wolford

    Sean’s description of Umbrella Academy is the worst. His talk of the set up of the show is not based on a singular swimming pool. Lol.

  • Sean

    So you’re saying they weren’t all born in swimming pools? I guess I missed that. I seem to have a problem with plots these days.

  • devolutionary

    Some of the clips are fun although I find that a lot of them seem either out of context or unimportant. Either way, the ones I love are hilarious though. Maybe that’s all part of the masterplan? Maybe use clips from other material to see if we’re paying attention? https://youtu.be/MccjGROAHbY?t=53
    I would love more aliases when introducing yourselves each episode. Like special new host “Apple Head”. Drunk Uncles march on!

  • Beat_C

    a resounding yes to “we’ve got a clip, let’s take a listen” from me, too. like sean points out, it breaks up the show and gives you an idea of the movie if you haven’t seen it.

  • Beat_C

    i love rogue’s voice! a quick research revealed that it’s leonore zann, who apparently is a canadian actress and politician, haha.

  • Indianamcclain

    I also watched the MJ doc, and I’ll just say idk. Because while the testimony of the two victims was damning, there’s two sides to this story. The evidence on the other side is also damning to Robson, and Safechuck. I’ll wait till until actual evidence is provided.

  • Bryan Wolford

    Lol. No like 40 something kids were born all over the world out of no where when the women weren’t even pregnant and they used this specific scene to show how it happened. Each birth was completely different.

  • devolutionary

    Yeah from what I’ve read and heard about the doc, there’s a lot of opportunism from the 2 victims (+parents) plus potential perjury if their stories truly changed. Plus MJ is not around anymore to defend himself so this feels one-sided.

  • Indianamcclain

    Robson came out with his story right after the statute of limitations on the 2005 case expired. So he can’t be charged with perjury.

  • devolutionary

    How convenient!

  • Indianamcclain

    Definitely calculated

  • Mister Quigley Jr.

    I’m sure I’m not the only Junker who has completely lost the plot and interest in the MU, but still loves hearing you guys talk about it. Great episode, fellas (and Frank). Gasman lives.

  • pcch7

    I like the clips btw.

  • Matt the Kiwi

    Yeah, keep the clips but feel free to be silly with ‘em.

  • Matt the Kiwi

    Sean, if you really want to go retro roller ball then check out the Mickey Rooney film ‘The Fireball’. It is far from great but gives you a pretty good idea of just how big Roller Ball was back in the 40’s and 50’s (I get the feeling it was almost the WWF of that era but I could be talking complete shit).
    https://letterboxd.com/film/the-fireball/

  • pcch7

    I hope the druncles make a return fir End Game. Always good to have them on the show

  • Indianamcclain

    I’m interested to see what they do with the next Avengers film, but that’s it.

  • pcch7

    I wouldn’t have watched Judgment Night if it wasn’t for the clip

  • Lior

    I haven’t listened yet, but who watched Adventures of Captain Marvel?! Great serial! And it has nothing to do with the Marvel character by the same name.

  • Jake

    I also enjoy hearing the clips. It reminds me of Siskel & Ebert. But if you get rid of it no biggie. I enjoyed News, Trailer Trash and Junk Mail too but didn’t jump ship when those went away. You can make all the changes you want but I’m still gonna listen :)

    Always great to have Dax and Greg on. I lost it when Greg dropped ‘Clark Grindelwald’. My co-workers think I’m crazy lol.

  • pcch7

    did Mad Frank actually delete his twitter?

  • MartyMcFlyJr

    Also calculated: installing alarms along the hallway leading up to your bedroom so you can know the second someone starts to approach the door.

  • B MP Rooney

    No episode next week. Hit me with your favorite or top 3 premium podcasts! I have plenty. But let me have suggestions, folks!

  • B MP Rooney

    Also, Greg’s question at the end about art and the artist was very Junk mail like and as a listener, you can tell why we valued Junk mail. Juuusst saying, Jay!!

  • Oso Jugo

    I enjoy the Ninja Turtles premium.

  • Yes, some weeks ago.

  • Hunter Allen

    When Greg or Dax pointed out the Rogue jacket thing, it momentarily made me like Captain Marvel slightly more, then slightly less, since I dunno if callbacks to the then-villain who crippled and nearly killed Carol Danvers is the best possible fanservice. Fortunately, it’s probably a lot more about Tom Cruise. Which is also questionable in a movie that simultaneously says militarism is bad, but Top Gun is inspirational and cool. But whatevs.

    Agree with Sean that the clips serve a structural purpose, yet also agree with Jay that they’re kind of dead air.

  • Hunter Allen

    I liked the acknowledgement that very few pieces of popular art are auteur productions, e.g. Michael Jackson’s songwriters. It’s like, yeah, The Usual Suspects is a sex criminal twofer, but I dunno if I’m comfortable punishing Chris McQuarrie and Gabriel Byrne and the cinematographer and the production designer and the studio for that, especially when the misconduct hadn’t even happened yet. Same deal with memory holing the MJ episode of the Simpsons, which is kind of awful of Groenig to do without asking the animators and Yeardley Smith and all if they were ok with their art being thrown in the trash. I mean, if you wanna never look at a Dali painting because he was a fascist collaborator, that’s one thing (and I’d still be appalled if that was more than a personal decision), but the case of the singular artist is so rare it basically doesn’t exist in movies, TV, or even music.

  • B MP Rooney

    Genius.

  • tyler mikol

    The Star Wars prequels is amazing, Star Trek, and The Steven Spielberg Sci-Fi Spectacular.

  • devolutionary

    On entertainment value alone, Friday the 13th, Purge Premium, Star Trek (Reedisms), or maybe Tobe Hooper Premium instead (beware the sun spots and “oh my kid banana!”)?

  • tyler mikol

    I watched Ant-Man and the Wasp the other day for the first time. It definitely had my favorite Stan Lee Cameo. https://youtu.be/OMcm9lGmGCM

  • Indianamcclain

    Sorry, we’re questioning why a billionaire who allegedly had items stolen from him had a security system in his house?

    I’m not a blind fan boy, but I just find multiple things about this case to be odd. If Jackson was the calculating/manipulative monster that this doc makes him out to be why haven’t other victims come out in tow of Robson & Safechuck’s accusations? With the amount of kids he was around there should be victims coming out of the woodwork ala Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinsten. Yet there are more (former) children defending him than condemning him, and that goes beyond privileged kids like Culkin or Feldman.

    If the doc convinced you that Jackson was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt so be it, but I’m not ready to pick up a pitchfork quite yet. So for the time being I’ll just say I don’t know what happened between these three men. Having said all that I do agree with the sentiment that every alleged victim deserves to be heard. So I’m glad this doc gave both of these men a platform to voice their accounts.

  • Indianamcclain

    The Star Trek one is good although Reed is definitely trolling during it. 2 out of 4 for Wrath of Khan coming from a Star Trek superfan? Not buying it. But it’s a fun discussion nonetheless.

  • Skewed_View

    I want to see Endgame, then I’m ready for a long break from the MCU.

  • Oso Jugo

    Book burning an episode of the Simpsons. Weird. Why not burn the works of L Ron Hubbard instead?

    I used to love that episode. Homer gets arrested for wearing a pink shirt to work.

  • Colin

    Purge Premium is the best.

    Others that are very good:
    – Edgar Wright
    – Jaws
    – John Carpenter 2
    – Michael Bay
    – A Nightmare on Elm Street
    – 80s Toy Franchise
    – TMNT
    – Harry Potter
    – Lethal Weapon
    – Star Trek

  • Tommy

    Dax, I’m totally with ya on Stan Lee’s face being digitally slapped on from somewhere else. That was my instant impression too.

  • Sam

    John Carpenter 2 is a great one.

    Also enjoy:
    – Indiana Jones
    – George Romero Trilogy is a very underrated one
    – Friday the 13th

    Not sure if those are my absolute favorites, but those are great.

  • bobsponge42
  • Film Gob

    I always skip 30 seconds when you say “We’ve got a clip, let’s take a listen”

  • Kenneth Serenyi

    One of the most interesting comic-book film discussions on this podcast. Jay should skip these movies if he doesn’t want to see them and should continue to drop the trivia bombs instead.

  • Jonnie123

    Maybe they de-aged him?

  • Jonnie123

    That’s funny I just asked this question on Twitter. Will def check out the purge one ????????

  • Totally with you Sean. I get what you’re trying to say. Annette Benings character is NOT the same as David Morse in Contact. In Contact her father is good and the vision/Alien she meets is also good. In this, they’re using the image of a character who is good to represent the ultimate bad guy.

    There were a lot of kids in my theater and I guarantee they were confused as to why Capt Marvel was fighting Bening Or why Bening is suddenly bad.

    To Frank and Dax and Greg, like Sean said, WE DO UNDERSTAND what is happening. We’re not idiots. But I agree that in the moment, it’s a little weird that the screenplay chose that character to represent evil and it just feels weird watching her battle an entity that looks like her most trusted friend. It makes sense, but it’s just weird and I guarantee kids were confused.

  • Lori Cerny

    Ah hahahahaha – awesome sauce!!!!

  • Sean

    Yes, thank you. I’m sure some of the confusion was my own fault but there are just some strange choices in this movie and a lot of shifting allegiances and overcomplications in a story that really didn’t need them.

  • I believe at one point you used the word “muddled”. That’s what is.

  • Lior

    The answer to these book burnings is to collect physical media of your favorite TV shows and movies and music and yeah, even books. When it’s all digital and streaming-based you are at the mercy of the copyright holders and even the creators who decide what you can and can’t watch. Yes, it’s Matt Groening’s right to do what he did. But it gets into the George Lucas debate. Does the original creator own the work, or does the public now “owns” the work? If it’s the former, then the creator is making all the decisions for you. Imagine if Lucas decided to re-do Star Wars after we went all-digital. You would not have access to the original work anymore. Groening’s decision was emotional rather than cerebral (and I’m not a big Simpsons fan FYI), but I think throwing an episode out and erasing it from existence just because MJ was part of it is kind of disrespecting the work that all the other creative contributors put into the episode.

    The old DVD sets where this episode exists have now most likely become a sought-after collector’s item.