Nixing Barry Lyndon and no RIP to Roeg and Burtolucci*? UnculturedSwineCast?

* as far as the intro. Will edit out if I’m made a fool of by the end of the ep!

Rocky does indeed turn the other cheek very often when insulted but he did get pissed off when Clubber Lang suggested that Adrian would be more satisfied in bed with him than with Rocky.

Oh true. I forgot him. Uncultured swine, me.

Well, spelling it “Burtolucci” might no be to most cultured thing, neither ????

Haha. I actually looked up the spelling to check the double c and still typed Burt.

You’re missing out on early Kubrick. Particularly The Killing. It’s an 80-minute heist movie starring Sterling Hayden and they rob a horse racing track.

Also Barry Lyndon is terrific! Should be a wet dream for any cinematography enthusiast.

I’d like 2001 up to Eyes Wide Shut. It’d be 6 films. Truly a daunting task for the lads but it would be awesome. This may be the longest premium yet. Shout out to Tim using Creamyum. Is that in the glossary?

Personally I love it, but I think I’m in the minority

Disagree. It deals with the notion of sexual obsession, jealousy, and the desire to cheat in a relationship and the way it consumes you and rewards ample watches. I think my favourite moment is when Tom Cruise’s character is in the hooker’s apartment and there is a filter on to give everything a dreamlike fantasy during the sexual teasing, and then right after she answers the phone the filter starts to dissapear and you can’t help but notice she is living in squalor.

Besides, even if they don’t like the film either, I think there is plenty for them to discuss anyways.

That said, if we are choosing the non-obvious Kubrick options, I would personally prefer Barry Lyndon and The Killing over Eyes.

I will never grow tired of “Hi!”.

I definitely take off my shoes during flights, although only if they are the ones over 5 hours. If I’m taking a 12 hour flight somewhere and desperately trying to remain comfortable crammed in that economy seat, the shoes are coming off. That said, I always take a shower right before heading to the airport and wear clean compression socks for the flight and I do not take those off. People are getting too comfortable though. I once caught a woman clipping her nails next to me in the theatre and I stared her down until she stopped.

Also agree that the Razzies are just as political and trend-following as any other awards show, as evidenced by Kubrick getting a worst director nod for The Shining. As well as other obvious things: If you agree that Catwoman had terrible direction and terrible scriptwriting, if anything that should have made Halle Barry not applicable to worst actress since her performance is actually pretty good considering what she was forced to work with.

Reed, man, you gotta do the podcast next week. I only listen to this shitty show in the hope that you’ll be on.

Definitely agree. The Killing is a must for Frank to check out as a Tarantino inspiration. If not for the premium, at least for the regular show.

Just seemed like Frank seemed a little too dismissive about earlier Kubrick considering I like The Killing and Paths of Glory just as much as anything else Kubrick made throughout the rest of his career.

for a quick catch up before creed 2 i would recommend this CREED MUSICAL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzAZUYmrLrU

Hey Sean will there not be a review of Steve McQueen’s Widows?

Coming this week with any luck!

LOL what an overly condescending and pretentious response. You believe your theory, I believe mine, but to insist only yours can be right is ridiculous. An even larger part of the movie is about men taking great risks for a little titillation and the “secret society” is just another version of it. If anything, even if you believe their threats were real, the “secret society” still ends up being about a bunch of dudes creating a lot of mysticism and ceremony to disguise the fact that what is really happening is they are just paying prostitutes to fuck them and don’t want to get caught.

Also, The Shining could not make it more clear that it is about one man’s personal demons of a different sort as well. To say it’s about a man becoming a servant of rich people is a pretty big stretch.

If the Shining is about Jack Torrence, why does Wendy see the man in the bear costume getting it on with the other fella? Jack’s visions are largely connected with the gala parties of the rich located in the ball room. The picture at the end with Jack actually at the rich man’s ball, dressed in period clothing. “You’ve always been here.” Oops, you missed the point of the Shining too.

No reason to resort to name calling.

I’m sorry, I can’t seem to find your response to why Wendy saw the man in the bear costume? Also, we see the picture at the end, after a Jack is dead. Both of these things preclude the notion that everything was in Jacks head. I’m not saying I know definitively what everything means but the suggestion that the movie is solely about Jack Torrence and his family is wrong, given the things I’ve pointed out. The movie definitely has something critical to say about the wealthy.

Let’s not exaggerate, it’s “only” 3 hours long. and the chapter titles are perfectly placed (there are only three if I’m not mistaken).
The Killing is one of the best Film Noirs out there. What’s interesting about Kubrick is that he worked in so many different genres and made each of them his own.

I hadn’t watched the whole movie in forever so I watched it last night out of curiosity. I’m heavily tempted to think the whole thing is a meta commentary on the depravity of–not only the American upper class establishment–but also Hollywood. The photograph at the end of the film is dated 1921. The roaring twenties is well know for its decadent heights but it was also Hollywood’s first big decade on the world stage. Jack Nicholson was known for living the high life, so the Jack in the photograph could just as easily be there to represent the movie star Jack Nicholson, and not the Jack Torrence of the film. Let’s not forget that Jack Nicholson was good friends with Roman Polanski around the time of the Manson murders and Polanski was actually arrested at Nicolson’s home for the sexual assault of a thirteen year old girl. The song that plays over the photograph is Midnight the Stars and You with the word stars serving as an unsubtle reference to the hollywood star system. I would go as far as to suggest that the bear costume represents the state of California–home of hollywood–with it’s Bear flag adopted in 1911 (the overlook is said to have been completed in 1909). The bear that services the establishment through the production of films that flirt with approved philosophies and codes of conduct. There is a reference to the Donner party who were on there way to California, in the hopes of sharing in the wealth of the gold rush, when they met with their unfortunate fate. The ball room in the Overlook is named the Gold room. The “Here’s Johnny” line is said to be an ad lib but I have no doubt that meticulous Kubrick would have seen the symbolism of keeping it in the film. Johnny Carson was, of course, host to all of Hollywood, and his late night show could easily serve as a type of Gold Room. Danny Torrance is plastered all over with Warner Bros and Disney cartoons the whole way through. Kubrick was a smart guy. I wouldn’t put all this past him. I wouldn’t doubt that, yes, he even had had something to say about the apollo program, because he pairs Danny’s apollo sweatshirt with what is supposedly the most evil room in the overlook. What he’s trying to say I don’t know, but he could be suggesting something shady is going on with the whole affair. Perhaps not. Now this is just all off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s lots of stuff I missed. But you Mr. Cardoza have seen Mythbusters. You know the 4K truth. Your television and electronic devices would never lie to you. You paid too much for them. Everything in your world is on the level. You’re just living on gee golly swell sesame street where everyone is your neighbor and nothing nefarious or sinister has ever been done in the whole history of the created world right? It’s a movie about a trashy Stephen King character who goes all silly in the head, and tries to kill his family. That’s it, nothing more. Bill Nye and Wolf Blitzer said so. Blessed be Lord Xenu, amirite? Eyes Wide Shut is about TomNic and nothing more. It’s just a fun time at the movies. John Tesh and Mary Hart authoritatively laid down the imperial transcripts of this undeniable fact on an episode of Entertainment Tonight. The law has declared all who think otherwise to be an unorthodox and deviant.

Did you guys hear about the Blade Runner anime series that Adult Swim is making? I’m interested mainly because Blade Runner is one of my favorite film series. And I know Sean you’re such an anime head now, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QKHOCB1sao

I’m sorry to continue this train of thought but it has been fascinating me for the last couple of days, and since I live in a place devoid of living people I’m just going to leave it here. My dearest apologies to the moderator.

I think I have the clincher in terms of what Kubrick was trying to get across in the Shining. This Kubrick quote helps: “I have always enjoyed dealing with a slightly surrealistic situation and presenting it in a realistic manner. I’ve always liked fairy tales and myths, magical stories. I think they are somehow closer to the sense of reality one feels today than the equally stylized “realistic” story in which a great deal of selectivity and omission has to occur in order to preserve its “realist” style.” Since Kubrick was an atheist, you can’t really take the film at face value as a ghost story. What it really is is a story told in the same style as Alice In Wonderland. It’s completely surreal but told in a realistic fashion. Now, as I said before, I think the photograph at the end is there to represent the actor Jack Nicholson and not the character of Jack Torrence. In the novel, Jack Torrance is John Torrance so Kubrick changed the name of the main character to match the name of his star actor. What really pulls the actor Nicholson into the film though is the character of Grady, who is essentially a mirror to Torrance/Nicholson. There is Jack Torrance and Jack Nicholson and there is Charles Grady (the name he is given during Jack’s interview at the start of the film) and Delbert Grady (the name he uses when he introduces himself to Torrance). The first name stays the same in reference to Jack, while the last name stays the same in reference to Grady. Now there is no reason whatsoever that Grady is given two different names except to subtly pull the actor Nicholson into the film. The manager says that Grady killed his family in the winter of 1970, the same year that Nicholson had his star breakout role in Five Easy Pieces. That being said, when we come to the pivotal scene in the strange bathroom, between Torrance and Grady, we have a scene that becomes almost totally meta, and what gives it away is when Grady tells Jack that Jack has always been the caretaker, and that Grady has always been there. Grady is talking about the film–the piece of artwork itself–called The Shining. Torrance has always been the caretaker in the film The Shining, and will always be the caretaker. Grady has always been in The Shining to tell Torrance that. Likewise, Nicholson will always be playing the role of Jack Torrance in The Shining, and sure enough every time I watch it, he is the caretaker. Kubrick is referring to the power Hollywood has to immortalize its stars. This explains why Jack tells Wendy that he’s having bad deja-vu, that he feels as though he’s been in the Overlook before. Jack Nicholson, the actor, is playing the role of a caretaker, or worker. Now, in the 1920s, actors were still referred to as players. All work and no play make Jack a dull boy; or, all worker and no player make Jack a dull boy. Again, the “All work and no play” line is not in the Stephen King novel. In fact, I’ve read that Kubrick didn’t even look at the screenplay King had adapted. I really think all this explains where The Shining gets its strange power. Kubrick is raking Hollywood and it’s owners over the coals through subtle metaphors and allegories. He’s essentially saying that America and Hollywood are run by insane, decadent murderers, through the symbol of the Overlook. It’s no secret that Kubrick didn’t like Hollywood and he left America in 1961, never to go back. Lastly, I’ve also learned that apparently in the final shot of the film, one of the photographs on the wall–besides the central one of Jack at the party–is of the actor James Mason, who played in Kubrick’s Lolita, and strangely enough, was on the set of the Shining one day, as this footage documents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGRtiE20TpE

Anyhow, if that’s James Mason, the actor in one of the photographs at the end of the film, then there’s no reason not to think that that is Jack Nicholson, the actor in the central photograph.

Here’s a related video that points out the surrealistic design of the Overlook hotel sets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sUIxXCCFWw

Okay, I can’t resist one more comment since I found this delectable bit of information. The movie playing on the unplugged television set that Wendy and Danny are watching is called Summer of 42. Summer of 42 is coming of age drama written by Herman Raucher, who just happened to also be the main character of the film. The movie is about the screenwriter Herman Raucher, written by Herman Raucher. That does not happen often, as far as I know.