I definitely have trypophobia as well and never knew the term. And I totally remember that Richard Pryor scene in The Toy! Also in Weird Science, when Chet turned into that blob and he was all bubbles.

Just listening to that segment made my skin crawl! For me, it’s all because of the patterns causing me think it’ll happen to my own skin. It’s soo gross!

Maybe everyone with Tryp developed it from The Toy?!?

Yeah, I also have exactly what Jay mentioned and pretty much exactly how he feels about it. I’m not scared of it, just unnerves me and gives me the chills. Honeycombs don’t bother me either.

The earliest I could remember triggering that was this picture from probably well over a decade ago:

https://misseye.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/fingers16xy14zy0cs.jpg

I will trade two mystery blurays for that batman drawing.

Jay “Kit Kat” Cheel

I don’t think Frank said this on the show, but I believe he was close to giving it a 6. They are definitely on the table. It just seems like there haven’t been very many movies so far this year to even be in the zone.

Very nice. Will definitely need to do a glossary update in the near future.

5s across the board for The Shape of Water!

Honestly surprised no one’s linked the boob/spider one yet (please don’t).

Jay often uses the argument that showing violence towards women or having misogynistic characters does not make a film inherently sexist because those things exist in the world and thus in order to make a point about said things they need to be shown. The problem with Mother is that it has nothing to say about the role of women in society other than framing them as unwitting victims and giving men more images of violence towards women to subconsciously get off to. Even if this is not the intent of Aronofsky his film is still reckless. There are plenty of feminist films that show the horrors of man but they don’t fetishize them, rather they focus on the causality of such things.

I admit Mother! isn’t as bad as something like Everybody Wants Some or Nocturnal Animals in regards to its clear hatred of women but there is a very aggressive masculine overtone that makes it markedly threatening from a female perspective. I also find it endlessly frustrating that when discussing this I am often told I didn’t get the film or something along those lines. But anyway.

thank you very much for the show. love you guys.

It’s interesting, I think from a male point of view, the movie is effective because it is forces you to realize that this kind of relationship is traumatic and dismissive and that women have to put up with it all the time. I can’t speak to the direct violence that is seen later in the film, I don’t know that it was really necessary but it certainly works as a gut punch. From a female point of view, however, all of this is probably obvious and I can see how you would get nothing out of the experience.

I almost felt like Aronofsky was admitting to some of this kind of behaviour himself and trying to atone for it by being honest about it. But who knows.

I don’t recall using this argument in the past, let alone often (although I don’t recall very much beyond yesterday) but I certainly wasn’t using that argument here. If anything, I was suggesting that the film CAN be considered misogynistic depending on the viewer’s own experiences and perspectives. I suggested that in order for him to make his point (successfully or not), Aronofsky felt the need to show what he showed, and that might inspire a response from people who feel he and his film are misogynistic. That response shouldn’t be (and I’m sure wasn’t) unexpected based on the material.

With those films (Detroit Rock City and Spring Breakers…I don’t True Detective) we were discussing sexuality, not violence. And I was suggesting that the women were the ones in control in the scenes we were discussing (pool threesome and car scene) and that suggesting it was sexist was in a way sexist because it assumed that by default, the women must be considered victims when faced with sexuality (even if it’s by choice.) As though they should be virginal and chaste by nature.

It gets more complicated of course when you go beyond the text and think about the role of the male writer/director and the responsibility of the women taking on the roles, but I don’t think that those scenes are inherently sexist because I don’t feel that that men are the ones in control.

And don’t worry, I’m not feeling my feet being held to the fire! Just responding.

Well I think the Spring Breakers issue was, well, a non issue because I agree that we are shown females taking control of their sexual wants. As for Detroit Rock City I think it is probably sexist but mostly just dumb (although entertaining). I guess my only point is that something like Detroit Rock City has characters who are sexist and doesn’t show the consequences of their sexism. Of course I don’t think a film as frivolous as Detroit Rock City has any responsibility to do so but still it makes it have a sexist overtone.

But mostly it’s just a minor annoyance in cases like that. I think the violence against women was what bothered me so much in mother! I don’t really think Aronofsky has any disdain for women like some filmmakers do (*cough* tom ford *cough*) but I could see people who do being fed by the images in the film. As an example I don’t think anyone could walk away from Gaspar Noe’s ‘Irreversible’ feeling anything other than disgusted by sexual violence. I think people can walk away from mother! and think little of the horrific reality of violence towards women. Like Frank was just talking about a studio controlling a project. Noe’s film, using graphic violence as well, leaves little room for one’s mind to room to such innocuous places.

That post ran on too long.

Why’d you have to post that image you fucking asshole. Its fucking gross you piece of shit.

It is his rib Frank, your ribs wrap around your torso. And the very next day his wife showed up.
Also fuck whoever decided to use a cover of mother as the end song.

Women who do not support abortion rights are DEFINITELY mysoginistic and anyone who would say otherwise is just as bad. Frankly am sad that you guys who I normally admire so much did not speak up against hateful biggoted women who try to tell women what they should do with their bodies. They can all die for all I care. Fuck them all and any who would agree with them.

One more notable Blu-ray title released this week: Takeshi Kitano’s Hana-bi appears to have finally been given the treatment it deserves by Film Movement. If Jay liked Boiling Point, I can see him being impressed by this one, which is arguably Kitano’s greatest movie.

You’re forgetting people like to outraged for likes on the internet.

Love your logo Essie.

Holy crap Jay, I think I have Trypophobia also. Google MLB The Show Face glitch. If that qualifies, then I sure have it. That really really freaks me the fuck out.

At the risk of opening the floodgates, pronunciation corrections are always welcome. I guess I was mixing up my French and Spanish. Thanks!