Film Junk Podcast Episode #551: Hail, Caesar!

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0:00 – Intro
10:35 – Review: Hail, Caesar!
55:50 – Headlines: Super Bowl Trailers, Yoga Hosers Clip
1:19:05 – Other Stuff We Watched: Leatherheads, Philadelphia, Trumbo, Kung Fu Panda, The Lego Movie, Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation, Contagion, Straight Outta Compton, Goosebumps, Steven Avery: Innocent or Guilty, Ash vs. Evil Dead, Zoolander, American Crime Story
2:01:25 – Junk Mail: Follow-Up on Adam’s Merged DVD and Blu-ray Collection, Update on Frank’s Flood, Supreme Cinema Series Blu-rays, James Franco, Cineplex Digital Film Festival
2:44:05 – This Week on DVD and Blu-ray
2:48:55 – Outro

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  • Nick

    45 minutes of discussion about a new Coen film… I’m in!

  • Sean

    Fair warning: probably about 15 minutes of that is about cotton candy.

  • Many of the people (and elements) in the film are in fact based on real people:

    http://www.flickchart.com/blog/beyond-caesar-the-history-and-movies-behind-the-coens-latest/

  • Indianamcclain

    Hey Sean, random question did you and Frank settle your Star Wars bet from the neighbors episode where Frank predicted Han Solo’s fate?

  • Sean

    Yeah I think we all know and agree that many of the characters are loosely inspired by real people. The point of contention mostly came about because I thought there were multiple characters who actually had the same name as their real-life counterparts, but I guess Eddie Mannix is the only one. I thought there were more.

  • Sean

    Did we actually make a bet on that? I don’t remember. I guess I’ll have to go back and relisten to it.

  • DrewNugent

    I’m jealous of Jay’s cotton candy eating… I have literally never seen cotton candy in a movie theater.

  • Indianamcclain

    It’s at 41:13 in the Neighbors episode.

  • devolutionary
  • schizopolis

    Thumbs up for LoseIt! app. Been using it for years and got a free premium account. Yes, lots of info is from others adding nutrient info. But, you just pick the most accurate one.

  • Did Jay only get LoseIt! because it’s like Letterboxd for food?

  • Sam

    Deppilepsy is gold

  • Sam

    Nick Schenck was a real person as well.

  • Sean

    Ah okay. Was he actually in the movie though or just mentioned?

  • Bizzaro Nate

    Can I get a link to that crappy popcorn feature presentation video? I wanna see bad popcorn physics :) Thanks.

  • Sam

    Wasn’t actually physically in the movie but Brolin speaks to him on the phone a few times I believe and constantly talked about as the head of the studio.

  • Here’s a link to the Landmark Popcorn video:

    https://vimeo.com/48170979

  • Sam

    And two random things I noticed as well. Capitol Records is the same studio Barton Fink goes to work for and at the beginning they mention a Wallace Beery which is the actor who is supposed to star in Barton Finks “wrestling picture”

  • Hey_Guise!

    Ok, I had to post here after years of not posting, because of Adam.

    First, someone should call the cops.

    Second, I need to see pics of these Blu-DVD monstrosities.

    Third, Frank is a great addition to the show.

  • Sam

    Come on fellas, Coen Brothers premium should be first 7 films minimum. I think if you guys can survive 5 Michael Bay movies at about 2+ hours each, you should easily manage Coen Brothers films where none of which hit the 2 hour mark.

    First seven of their movies would be nice:
    Blood Simple
    Raising Arizona
    Millers Crossing
    Barton Fink
    Hudsucker Proxy
    Fargo
    Big Lebowski

    And if you’re feeling extra generous, toss in O Brother as well. Prior, to Hail Caesar, they had 16 films, so could split it right down the middle for a potential part 2 in the future.

  • Adam C.

    I already posted a bunch of pics in the ‘Comment’ section of the “Synchronicity” Podcast #550. ????

    http://filmjunk.com/2016/02/02/film-junk-podcast-episode-550-synchronicity/#disqus_thread

    By the way, Frank. Here’s a screenshot of TRUE LIES on my 70-inch Flatscreen T.V. Set. I put the DVD into my Blu-Ray player and this is how it plays automatically WITHOUT altering any of the Aspect-Ratio settings. It’s not stretched at all, and there are no black-bars on the side. It does have the top and bottom letterboxed bars, but then again, so do a lot of Blu-Rays that I own.

    You ‘DO’ however make a very compelling argument against me donating my old DVD’s to the retirement home in my local community though. (I’ve got enough problems in my life without being tried for murder!) ????

    I probably should have specified that if I WERE to donate my DVD’s at some point in the future, then the Blu-Ray cases themselves would NOT be included. (They were just far too pricey.) I would definitely just put them all in some type of folder-book or something.

    And Jay, thanks for making my night. That whole ‘valor’ angle really was ingenious, I must say. ???? Keep up the great work, guys! ????????

  • Bizzaro Nate

    Hahaha what a pile of dog shit! :D :D Thanks for the post!

  • Sam

    Deppatitis ain’t bad either

  • ah

    Bet was confirmed at the 49 minute mark. Frank really needs to keep track of his bets; he was about to miss out on 20 big ones. Indianamcclain should also get a cut of that sweet 20 for the reminder.

  • Lori Cerny

    Me too!!!

  • Josh

    Pretty sick looking theater room there. Is that Storm Trooper helmet full scale 1:1?

  • Josh

    Yep, definitely FJ Glossary material.

  • Adam C.

    Thanks, Josh. Yes, the Stormtrooper Helmet is the full-sized version that was offered from ‘Master Replicas’. Here are some better shots of the room along with some closer pictures of some of the prop-replicas in the glass cabinet.

  • traie

    Sean,
    Totally agree with you about the idea of a format that the consumer does not actually have to touch and can place directly into the player. I buy plenty of physical copies but occasionally will rent from my library where they have an extensive collection of Criterion on Baby Blue among tons of other back catalog and current releases. Occasionally while I’m deep into a film, a recent example Cape Fear which intermittently jumped a few seconds about a half dozen times during the run time all due to one greasy thumb print even after cleaning. I actually thought when first announced that BluRay was going to be closer to Sony’s very own Mini Disc and later UMD formats that came with outer casings that protected the actual discs from human contact and other damage…great idea but unfortunately both failed to connect with North American consumers

  • Josh

    Holly cow, it’s like a Spielberg/Lucas museum! I need to get one of those E.T.s.

  • Josh

    That’s a nice collection! I want one of those E.T.s. That Raptor claw is badass. These pictures should pardon you for your DVD crimes, :)

  • Adam C.

    I seriously doubt that either Jay or Frank would grant me a full ‘pardon’ due to the severity of my crimes, but maybe I could be granted leniency. (I’m not holding my breath though.) ????

    And I agree with you, the E.T. is definitely a cool piece. They look awesome in person.

  • Adam C.

    Here are a couple more photos of some of the props.

  • Sarai Jannet L’cruis

    The scene where Marge meets up with her old friend from highschool served a key purpose in the plot of Fargo. After Marge realises that he had lied to her about his whole life story, it dawns on her that Lundegaard may have also been lying to her. She then travels back to Brainerd is to question Lundegaard again.

  • Mister Quigley Jr.

    Great episode, fellas. The Juice’s American Crime Story would be a great show to talk about weekly, imo. Just the right amount of cheese, controversy, and quality.

  • DrewNugent

    I agree with Sam completely… you guys are talking about doing the first 6 films, but it wouldn’t be a Coen’s premium without a Big Lebowski discussion and that’s only one more. The first 7 is the perfect way to go.

  • Jonnie123

    @Sean, listening to Frank talk about his Hateful 8 rewatch reminded me about the recent guitar controversy. Did you guys ever mention it in the podcast?
    http://www.guitarplayer.com/gear/1012/historic-martin-guitar-accidentally-destroyed-in-quentin-tarantinos-hateful-eight–video/56497

  • Sean

    Did not know about that. Pretty sweet. Frank might need to rewatch it again.

  • Adam C.

    Okay…so here’s my final, ‘last-ditch’ effort to make my case for the insanity of putting regular DVD’s into Blu-Ray cases. What ‘classic film’ deserves to be integrated into, and displayed prominently among, everyone’s Movie collections? That’s right. None other than…NOTHING BUT TROUBLE!

    My new copy arrived just yesterday, and I took a picture of it amongst some of my other movies, (not the correct’alphabetical section’ though) to show just how seamlessly it now blends in with the rest of my Collection.

    Would I rather have a High-Resolution copy of NOTHING BUT TROUBLE on beautiful, ‘Baby-Blu’? Or even better, on new & improved, glorious ‘4-K’? Of course I would! (Who wouldn’t?!) But I’m a realist. And I believe that a film THIS important to the world of Cinema DESERVES to be proudly displayed amongst the Main Collection! “Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury…I rest my case”.

  • I could also see part 2 of the Coen premium glossing over Intolerable Cruelty & Ladykillers, really not a ton to dwell on with those… Plus we’ve already gotten a bit of discussion about Llewyn Davis & True Grit when they both came out. So that leaves O Brother, The Man Who Wasn’t There, No Country, Burn After Reading & A Serious Man. I’d live to hear updated takes on all those!

  • Sean, never stop editorializing.

  • Sam

    I think Intolerable Cruelty and Ladykillers would be interesting discussions as they are widely considered, and for a pretty good reason, bottom-tier Coen brothers movies.

    I’d also like to hear an update a bit on Inside Llewyn Davis even though it’s very new. I feel at end of year 2013, Jay didn’t seem to appreciate as much as he does now. He expanded a little bit more about it when he gave it a rewatch a while back, but not as much as would be done a premium. Especially since a part 2 would likely not be for another year or 2 (or however long it takes for a new Coen film to come out). By that time, I could see revisiting Llewyn Davis and True Grit more reasonable.

  • “If I had Alzheimer’s and knew it…”

    Too late, Frank. Too late.

  • OsoDuck

    I think the reason that many didn’t get Hail Caesar! is because the Coens use the film to point out that Hollywood is, as its critics have pointed out since its founding, an idol of godlessness. Most don’t seem to notice that the Coens do not share the same horror as do their contemporaries in treating of questions of religion, even going so far — may the heavens forbid it — as to cast ideas of God in a favorable light. For a good example, I’m thinking particularly of the moment in No Country For Old Men in which Jones despairs that God does not think very much of him, and his friend reassures him with “You don’t know what He thinks.” Even Chigurh’s (don’t know how to spell it – not looking it up) car accident comeuppance seems to hint at the beginnings of divine retribution. Hail Caesar!, likewise, casts Eddie Mannix’s simple piety in a sympathetic light, and although Mannix calls Capitol pictures a dump, he rises above the madness that surrounds him by his faithful adherence to doing his job well, which almost seems to abscond him from the fact that his job consists of lying to the public about the nature of the people who frequent Capitol pictures. And the nature of those people is the real animating principle of Hollywood. That nature is communicated by way of their adulterous natures. Manix and the cowboy actor, the good characters in the film, are steadfast and faithful (the cowboy actor’s fixed date with the latina starlet is the epitome of naive innocence), but Clooney’s actor and Tatum’s tap dancing sailor communist, the bad characters, are adulterous and characterized mainly by hints of inclinations to sodomy surround them (just pointing out what’s in the film, please don’t be unreasonable). The bad characters are also communists. Now, don’t lay the ban hammer down on me but I’d just like to point out that it is a fact of history that Communism was frequently linked to homosexuality. Communism is atheist of course, so the communists are attempting to excise God from Hollywood, even from a biblical epic as its being made. The primary thrust of the film is that Cloony’s Converso Roman is stolen directly from the picture. The Christian is removed from the epic. Additionally, when Mannix is watching the film’s dailies, God’s image is absent, and a title card reads something like “divine presence to be inserted later”. And most subtly, a line in the Biblical Epic’s script is changed from Passion to ardor. Passion is of course, a reference to the Crucifixion. And even Clooney’s character complains that the change doesn’t make sense because passion is a stronger word than ardor.

    The film’s end credits include a rendition of a song called Echelon’s Song by the Soviet Red Army choir, a song nostolgic for the glories of the bolshevik revolution. The song begins to play as the film ends on a wide shot of the Hollywood’s Capitol studios.

    This image of the film’s Hollywood revolutionaries is an evocation of the famous painting, Washington Crossing the Delaware, which is of course, a painting of American revolutionaries.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9032122e18f7a6e1f415fd2311430981cfabf7d3efbbe2bc06a75e9820a397d4.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8eda968018f9159dce7672a6feb83a91a975f1ec69ca482ba0c78bbefdb13f2e.jpg

    The simple takeway is that the Coens are just outright saying that
    Hollywood is communist, and that’s why no one gets it. To the liberal
    who adores the Coen Brothers, they would never say such a thing, or should I say they would never suggest such a thing was bad, so that
    message can’t be in there. I’d say that the Coens’ political
    allegiances are not as cut and dry as one may think. Honestly though, I’m not sure how anyone could make an honest film about Hollywood and not clearly see that the place has been atheist from the the beginning.

    By some bizarre coincidence, my nostalgia goaded me into watching Wayne’s World 2 yesterday, before I watched Hail Ceasar even, and it has an image I could have never guessed in a million years would be in Wayne’s World 2, and yet…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/36737882e709cc5b710e615dfd643491bd2c1967e4aa6332f63eec95e5f3b961.jpg

  • WH life