Film Junk Podcast Episode #531: The Visit

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0:00 – Intro
4:00 – Review: The Visit
32:00 – Headlines: Arnold Schwarzenegger to Host Celebrity Apprentice
36:35 – Other Stuff We Watched: Steve Jobs: The Man in the Machine, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Mistress America, The Man from Earth, Black Swan, Hitman: Agent 47, The Congress, Stray Cat Rock: Delinquent Girl Boss, The Target Shoots First, Dressed to Kill
1:10:30 – Junk Mail: M. Night Premium, Last Sequel to Win Best Picture Follow-Up, The Nightmare Before Christmas, More Versus Movies That Need to Be Made, Letterboxd Pro, Favourite Scream Rip-Off, The Definition of Cameo, Selling Digital Codes, Frank’s Reassessment of Mad Max: Fury Road, Sean’s Memory Problems
2:15:50 – This Week on DVD and Blu-ray
2:19:45 – Outro
2:21:45 – Spoiler Discussion: The Visit

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  • devolutionary

    Massive Junk Mail section this week! Guess a bunch of it is carry over from the lost week Sean was tending to his kids?

  • LordAwesome

    “It’s a Tim Burton movie.”

    Just like BATMAN RETURNS and EDWARD SCISSORHANDS which are both Christmas movies?

  • Bandit Manatee

    I’m a frank lover but I was squirming a bit when he was claiming the killer wasn’t ghost face. He walked right into that hot zone

  • Bandit Manatee

    Also hugely anticipating avengers 3 a force into darkness. Lol

  • Sam

    Did anyone else have a problem with the girl in The Visit having “downloaded the definition” for sundowning?

    Reminds me of Frank’s nitpick with “launch the downloads” from Live Free or Die Hard.

  • devolutionary
  • Frankie Knuckles
  • Dstrbpx

    Couldn´t agree more.

    This should be an official ?FILMJUNK RULE? !!

    Frank is known to be cheating left and right when it comes to his rare horror reviews( if he doesn´t weasel out of it at all by ways of “important” visits to “relatives” etc.).

    It will not stop him from sneakily and obsessively pre-researching jump scare spoilers, but it will make his horror watches at least partially authentic and truthful.

  • schizopolis

    From the notes, it looks like you guys missed the whole Damonsplaining fiasco. Bummer…was anticipating to enjoy Frank exposing his unconscious white privilege again ;) He would’ve wholeheartedly defended Damon. Jay too, probably.

  • Sean

    If it’s on the first episode of Project Greenlight, we’ll get to it soon hopefully.

  • Keanan West

    Ghostface killah the rapper gets his name from a kung fu movie, the mystery of chessboxing, not scream

  • Jay Cheel

    Yes, you are right. I was mistaken. The name coming from a Kung Fu movie makes more sense.

    I’m just glad to be comfortable enough with myself to fully admit that I was wrong. Hopefully it might inspire Frank to do the same some day. I love him and wish him the best. xoxo Jay

  • Edward Scissorhands vs. Freddy Krueger
    The Master (Manos: The Hands of Fate) vs. The Master (Philip Seymour Hoffman)

    Oh, and it was Bart the bear in The Great Outdoors, not Bud.

  • Keanan West

    It’s all good, hope you’re right about Frank, cause he’s wrong a lot. Also, Candyman & Leprechaun were in the 90’s. I’d say both apply.

  • Lori Cerny

    Going from last week’s podcast…. why isn’t Mad Max: Fury Road considered a thriller? It certainly was for me. Two hours of continuous thrills.

  • The cameo definition is wrong. A cameo is a single scene appearance by a celebrity. Typically it is uncredited. Whether or not they are playing themselves makes no difference.

  • Samb

    Perhaps the FJ crew should watch last week’s episode of Andy Daly’s “Review”, in which he was asked what it was like to give a 6 out of 5. I’m not saying to take his experience as gospel (he’d be the first to admit it was a force-feed), but I believe his experience might prove instructive. At the very least, the contortions required for him to allow himself to award a 6 out of 5 in the first place would surely strike a cord.

  • Batman vs. Beetlejuice with Michael Keaton in dual roles

  • Indianamcclain

    To Jay and Frank, I also have a digital copy of the Rogue Cut that I wasn’t intending to use. Let me know if either of you want it.

  • Wolfcop vs. Robocop

  • Pedro the Yorkshireman

    In the Avengers Ultron episode, at 1.54.56, Sean asks if 6/5 can be applied retroactively. Jay first says he doesn’t think so then says ‘ you could, but that’s using your other 6 out of 5’!

  • Pedro the Yorkshireman

    1. Casper the friendly ghost Vs The Babadook
    2. Ariel from The Little Mermaid Vs the crew of the Andrea Gail from The Perfect Storm
    3. Cujo Vs Wilson from Cast Away
    4. The huge rolling boulder at the start of Raiders of the Lost Ark Vs the smoke monster from Lost
    5. Godzilla Vs Jiminy Cricket
    6. Simian flu Vs Alanis Morissette

  • LordAwesome

    Hausu vs. The Money Pit.

  • Corey Pierce

    #prewatch is hot garbage. NO SALE.

  • Rob

    A quick google search reveals that the first time anybody has ever typed “avengers 3 a force into darkness” was this comment, right here.

    So yeah, “lol” is a pretty appropriate response I think.

  • I feel like Frank would consider the announcement of a steelbook a “prewatch.” Too loosey goosey. No-go.

  • Rob

    The whole 6/5 thing,
    Frank’s argument is totally going against the purpose of the 6/5 as a fun gimmick. You need to take that risk, pull the trigger. The point as I understood it was making the statement “regardless what this year has in store, it would be unlikely for something to surpass the quality of this film.”

    And if you’re not willing to break the seal at that time, it doesn’t deserve the 6.

    I think if there should be any amendments to the 6/5 rule, it should be that the rating can only be applied to theatrical releases during the first run of airing.

    “Pandora’s Worm”

  • Bob

    Yes, that 6 to 6 part seemed like a bit of a cheat. Forrest also seems to have a habit of giving terrible experiences a too-generous two stars.

    If there’s an episode of Review that might be worthy of a 6/5, it has to be the Pancakes-Divorce-More Pancakes episode.

  • ReelJunkie

    Inside Man vs The Town would be great.

  • Bond vs. Ethan Hunt would be better than Bond vs. Bourne if you ask me.

  • Sam

    Yeah, I feel like Frank should not be allowed to give the 6/5 retroactively.

    This way, Frank is either forced to do one of two things. He will eventually give 2 6/5s later in the year and convince himself they were better than Mad Max since it his Top 10 list ABSOLUTELY HAS TO reflect his scores he gave OR he will finally concede that the score doesn’t have to dictate the order of your list and potentially put a 5/5 ahead of a 6/5

  • Kasper

    Yup. The 6/5 is about being bold. It no longer has any worth if you can just weasel out of it and give it loosey-goosey as you please.

  • Kenneth Serenyi

    If 6/5 ratings are declared at the end of the year, you might as well declare your top 2 movies of the year as your 6/5’s. Rating a movie 6/5 right away makes more sense as a fun gag since the top 10 year-end list can override those ratings anyway.

  • The Man from Earth is one of my favorite movies from that year. The look and production value is completely beside the point. It’s all about the script.

    http://www.rowthree.com/2007/12/29/review-the-man-from-earth/

  • And yeah. The Congress is nonsensical garbage.

  • Matt the Kiwi

    I’m loving all of these but am particularly keen to see the first one become a reality. How about ET vs Scarlet Johansson from Under the Skin. Ouch.

  • pcch7

    Will Trumps kids still be on the show? That is vital

  • pcch7

    Toy Story vs Cars?

  • Christine Vs. Cars

  • pcch7

    Frank must not be allowed to retro actively change his 6. Maybe unofficially.. That would take the credit away from those of us who stepped up, showed our balls and gave it a 6 straight away.

  • pcch7

    good one

  • How is anyone surprised that this is Frank’s preferred course of action?

  • pcch7

    Omg that Donald Trum vine is gold haha. The man is a comedic gold mine

  • pcch7

    Lol, I don’t envy anyone trying to argue that there will have been two movies that are better than Fury Road this year. He will choke on that force feed for sure but it will be fun to hear the arguments =D

  • Sam

    Yeah, when I saw Man from Earth like 7 years ago, not once did budget cross my mind.

  • kip

    Father Merrin vs the little lady from Poltergeist

    Jack Burton vs Snake Plissken

  • Big Hoss

    Retroactively changing a score to a 6/5 undermines the entire point of the 6. Frank, you were a pussy and missed your chance, now you want to have it both ways but you can’t, dumb dumb.

    Trying to justify your giving a 5 instead of a 6 because the original presentation you saw it in “wasn’t good enough” or whatever bullshit you said, doesn’t matter, YOU CHOSE to be a lazy fuck and not drive an hour and a half to see the film at a premium venue. You fucked up, you missed your chance, you were a pussy, and now you want to FUCK Jays supreme idea with your prewatch retroactive fuckboy logic.

    Take this as a learning experience, grow some balls, and commit to the 6 up front, like Jay, like a man.

  • Rob

    http://filmjunk.com/2015/05/05/film-junk-podcast-episode-513-the-avengers-age-of-ultron/

    Oh, found it. 1:51:30 ish in that episode. Interesting discussion that should absolutely be used for some railroading.

  • Rob

    There is a particularly interesting bit where Jay suggests you CAN use your 6/5 retroactively, but that’s means you’re using your second 6/5.

  • Sean

    I don’t think it’s beside the point. Film is a visual medium. As I said, I think I would have preferred to read it as a book. It would even work better as a play, which I believe it has since been adapted into. I still found the concept compelling enough to give it a pass, but it was most definitely not a masterpiece for me.