Film Junk Podcast Episode #512: Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck and Hot Docs 2015

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0:00 – Intro
3:30 – Headlines: First Photo of Jared Leto as The Joker, The Visit Trailer
32:35 – Review: Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck
1:00:20 – Review: Raiders!
1:20:35 – Review: The Wolfpack
1:31:05 – Review: The Nightmare
1:43:50 – Review: Western
1:53:50 – Review: Hot Sugar’s Cold World
2:02:15 – Review: Live From New York
2:13:05 – Review: (T)error
2:22:00 – Review: The Visit
2:32:10 – Other Stuff We Watched: Thank You for Playing, Beaver Trilogy Part IV, Chuck Norris vs. Communism, Above and Below, Welcome to Leith, Listen to Me Marlon, Breaking a Monster
3:13:20 – This Week on DVD and Blu-ray
3:14:40 – Outro

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  • Colin

    Looking at the breakdown, this is going to be one dense ‘cast… excited to dive into some doc talk!

  • bigwelsh

    No Avengers 2 review?

  • Bandit Manatee

    Its not out yet… at least in north america. I am sure it will be next weeks review.

  • pcch7

    Doomsday for the premium? Although Apocalypto would be great too. One of the best of the last decade for me.

  • Xidor

    Premium podcast: How about films for student filmmakers? “Eraserhead”, “The making of…And God Spoke”, “Living in Oblivion”, “Citizen Kane” or some other film school type movies.

  • LordAwesome

    Ugh… documentaries.

  • Xidor

    Nolan is executive producer on Batman V Superman.

  • Justin H

    This revelation of Sean’s childhood paranoid racist delusions gives a whole new meaning to The Bald Brotherhood.

  • devolutionary

    I find Kris Novaselic to be the most interesting character (as a person) from Nirvana as he appears to have done a complete 180 from his “frat,party-hardy” days in the band. He’s been politically active in Washington State with social reform towards music censorship as well as authoring his own musically-motivated political book ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Of_Grunge_and_Government ). I believe he’s still an elected State Committee member there too.

  • tyler mikol

    myself and my fellow “DocHeads” thank you for this show. Literally every film discussed perked my interest.

  • Thurston

    Super excited for this show. Can’t wait to hear Jay’s thoughts on “Montage of Heck”. Hot Docs show is always a yearly highlight.

  • Lori Cerny

    It took me three sessions to get through this ‘cast, but soooo worthy. The Junkers really gave a lot of time to each doc and explained their point-of-views clearly. Thanks guys.

  • Lori Cerny

    Oh, Jay missed a new quip…

    instead of Rock Hard, should be Doc Hard.

  • Samb

    I understand that traffic considerations force you guys to review the latest big-budget product most weeks. Present-day Hollywood is in a tremendous creative lull, though — I don’t believe the problem of catering to the international market while still delivering interesting scripts with convincing stakes is anywhere close to being solved. Here are two actual lines of dialogue from the latest Age of Ultron trailer:

    “Isn’t why we fight so we can end the fight?”
    “Well, we amazingly failed.”

    Clunk. Clunk. But this is why I love the annual Hot Docs episode — given a movie with an engaging topic and a creative approach to the material, you guys really shine. I wonder if you might consider doing a group doc review occasionally, like whatever might be new-to-streaming — not as the feature review, necessarily, but maybe as a secondary topic.

  • traynor

    I love the annual HotDocs episode. Because of you guys one of my dreams is going to TIFF and HotDocs in one year.

  • Booth

    Clearly, you guys need to add these post-apocalyptic masterpieces to the Mad Max premium:

    The Blood of Heroes (1989) a.k.a. The Salute of the Jugger with Rutger Hauer

    Luc Besson’s Le Dernier Combat (The Last Battle) (1983)

    and, of course, Steel Dawn (1987) with Patrick Swayze.

  • ben

    Sounds like teen spirit – the new Homage to Kurt – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgTDairYJkk

  • Essie

    Just got around to listening to this week’s episode because I wanted to see Montage of Heck first. Sean, the thing about Courtney ‘thinking’ about cheating on Kurt was certainly out there. In the book ‘Love & Death’ it’s presented as her having actually cheated on him, not just a thought. I’m also fairly certain it’s covered in Heavier than Heaven but I may be confusing the two books, I know they both go into the first suicide attempt.

    I found the film to be a little manic, never settled down and I just wanted it to breathe some and let the story shine through. It felt overly stylized. Also, I’m not really sure who the film is for. It goes out of its way to be cryptic with things, seemingly in an assumption that the audience knows enough about Kurt to fill in the blanks, yet it reveals nothing new. If it’s for people who don’t know his story it’s too vague and if it’s for his fans it’s too surface. About a Son I think is just what Kurt deserved, that’s a beautiful doc.

    Thanks a lot for the show. I think Hot Docs special is always my favorite episode of the year because Jay is obviously so knowledgeable (not that Sean and Frank aren’t great when talkin’ docs too) about the genre, and you guys all have better access than seemingly any other podcast. I always leave these episodes with a list of things to check out.

  • Sean

    Thanks Essie. The thing about Courtney possibly cheating… did that ever come from Courtney herself prior to this? I guess that’s what seemed new to me, that she would actually admit it. I’m sure there had been speculation for years. Wasn’t it Billy Corgan that she was rumoured to be having an affair with?

    Either way, it must have been significant to Morgen as well since he basically ended on it, although I guess it nicely caps off his thesis in the film about Kurt hating to be humiliated. I haven’t read Heavier Than Heaven and probably should at some point.

  • Sean

    I may or may not be thinking of buying up some real estate in Leith.

  • Sean

    Yep, next week. I should have a written review up by tomorrow.

  • Beerdude

    Waterworld obviously.

  • Or you could go with the other meaning of “film school movies” – Boondock Saints, Donnie Darko, Fight Club, etc.

  • Falsk

    “A Boy and His Dog” might go well with the Mad Max’s.

  • Indianamcclain

    You guys mentioned that you watched The Nightmare before you went to bed. Where can it be watched?

  • devolutionary

    Apparently Corgan and Love had a fling before she got together with Cobain and possible rekindled their relationship after his death. 10 years later he did move into her Beverly Hills mansion with her daughter. What a weird relationship cycle.

  • Deven Science

    Doomsday is a decent idea. I thought of throwing in No Escape, a cheesy Ray Liotta movie that has the exact same plot as Road Warrior. But there are probably better movies to throw in.

  • Deven Science

    That’s a great movie.

  • devolutionary

    Although tangental, I’d recommend an Austrailian pre-apocalyptic tinged movie such as Peter Weir’s The Last Wave or possibly a Peter Weir premium down the road. The dude has quite a filmography of different topics he’s tackled such as spirituality, nature vs. the modern world, and even the meaning of our existance. He also did an early Mel Gibson film (The Year of Living Dangerously). I know the Directors Club Podcast (Jim & Patrick) did a good episode awhile ago.
    http://traffic.libsyn.com/directorsclubpodcast/Episode_13_Peter_Weir.mp3

    -Picnic at Hanging Rock
    -The Last Wave
    -Mosquito Coast
    -Witness
    -Dead Poets Society
    -Fearless
    -Master and Commander
    -Truman Show

  • Sean

    We received screeners for all of the films we reviewed. Unfortunately none of them have actually been released for public consumption as of yet.

  • Sean

    This was definitely our top choice but we’re thinking we’ll probably save that for a possible “notorious box office bombs” premium podcast.

  • Indianamcclain

    Bummer, thanks Sean

  • Essie

    Yeah, I think you’re right that she never admitted that so I would agree that is a huge get for the director. it was Corgan. Heavier Than Heaven is fantastic except for the dramatic license taken for the telling of Kurt’s last days.

  • Doug

    Neil Marshall’s Doomsday would be a good bonus for the Mad Max premium.

  • Jake

    Or a Costner premium? Frank would love it!

  • scoobydelite

    You’ll have to change the title to “perceived box office bombs.” Waterworld cost around $175 million to make and made $264 million worldwide. A movie generally has to make at least 2.5 times the budget to break even, so yeah, Waterworld lost money but was not the financial disaster generally considered by the public.

  • Bob

    I also enjoy the Hot Doc reviews, as well any reviews you guys do for foreign movies and other less high-profile fare. (I personally would love to hear a discussion about the Cannes Film Festival.) I just saw a great documentary on PBS the other night, the Oscar-nominated “Last Days in Vietnam,” which is full of absolutely stunning footage of the Saigon evacuation.

    Also, Marilyn Manson may be older and more bloated and prone to losing his breath during live performances than before, but his newest album is surprisingly excellent.

  • Xidor

    Premium podcast – Retro gaming movies: “Cloak & Dagger”, “War Games”, “Tron”, and “The Last Starfighter”

  • Don’t assume no one likes the Doc episodes, guys! I added a lot of very intriguing films to my watchlist that would not have been on my radar otherwise. And right before we get into summer blockbuster season, it was great to hear you guys talk about such a variety of smaller material.

  • gordon henderson

    Just so all you guys know (incase you didnt) Montage of Heck was released in the UK on Bluray this Monday 27th April

  • Mrespony

    Yay! A discussion on documentariezzzz …zzzzz….zzz. Kidding of course, I don’t think there’s a better source for adding the enriching experience of a good non-fiction fil….zzzzz zzzzz

  • Nick

    I concur. The ‘Hot Docs’ episodes are always great.

  • Samb

    Oooh, good one.

  • Samb

    The Last Wave should definitely be watched.

  • Xidor

    Premium podcast – Burt Reynolds: “Deliverance”, ” Smokey and the Bandit”, “Gator”, ” Malone”, and “Boogie Nights”

  • Xidor

    Premium podcast – 1950’s SciFi: “The Day the Earth Stood Still”, “Forbidden Planet”, “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” and, “The Time Machine”.

  • Justin H

    Did he bring his cats?

    I was born in 87 so I missed out on a lot of Nirvana. I was always more of a fan of the Smashing Pumpkins though, Melon Collie was my first CD purchase when I was a kid. Now Corgan just seems like a egomaniacal joke. I think Frank (I think thats who said it) was right in saying that these rock figureheads always seem to become targets of mockery as they get older and less “revolutionary” and the same thing would have happened to Kurt. Pretty sure he wouldn’t have gone the Billy Corgan route though.

  • Justin H

    Listened to this p-cast twice. All but one or two of these docs sound very interesting, the sequence with pig farmer recording sounds in Upstream Color sounds like it was a more interesting take on sound manipulation as music than Hot Sugar.