Film Junk Podcast Episode #451: Riddick

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0:00 – Intro
2:02 – Review: Riddick
28:29 – Headlines: Tarantino Dumps The Hateful Eight, Pixar Working on a Star Wars Movie?, Robert Zemeckis to Direct Man on Wire “Retelling”, Kevin Smith Horror Anthology
52:03 – Other Stuff We Watched: The Square, The Pagemaster, An Adventure In Space and Time, Community
1:07:55 – Junk Mail: WTF Songs Sung by Characters in Movies, The Shawshank Redemption,
Movies We Still Crave on Baby Blu, A World Without Awards
1:25:20 – This Week on DVD and Blu-ray
1:27:17 – Outro

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  • FilmApe

    Twin Diesel

  • BatemanBegins

    I believe you are forgetting the Vanilla Ice classic, “Go Ninja Go.”

  • Liney

    Documentary ‘remakes’ (ahem): Dogtown and Z Boys, The Fifth Estate.

  • Liney

    Just listened to the end, and you did indeed get Sean on the second one of these!

  • Rohan Michael Morbey

    As SOON as I heard you guys mention The King Of Comedy is coming out on Baby Blu, I went to Amazon and pre-ordered. April 7th, it will be mine.

  • Nick

    Is this the shortest episode you’ve recorded? (no criticism!)

  • Sean

    I didn’t forget it, I just didn’t think it qualified. But I guess Vanilla Ice gets a little more screen time than just a band performing in the background.

  • Sean

    Probably the shortest one in a long time, but some of our early episodes were an hour long or less.

  • Sean

    Obviously I see the point you guys are making, I just want to clarify that there are legitimate examples of documentary remakes where a fiction film is based directly on a non-fiction film. Here are a few news stories about that, although I don’t think any of them have been made as of yet:

    https://filmjunk.com/2011/08/09/ben-stiller-and-disney-to-remake-quantum-hoops-documentary/

    http://filmjunk.com/2010/01/28/extreme-go-kart-doc-racing-dreams-to-get-hollywood-remake/

    http://filmjunk.com/2008/10/31/daddy-day-care-director-to-remake-documentary-shermans-march/

    One that did actually happen is Rescue Dawn, which is Werner Herzog’s remake of his own film, Little Dieter Needs to Fly. There is also the HBO remake of Grey Gardens and Kon-Tiki could potentially count as well.

  • Sean

    Oh, and also Lords of Dogtown is written by Stacy Peralta so I think it counts as well.

  • Kurt

    I like the believe the epic lengths of the RowThree Cinecast in some way influenced the every increasing runtime of film junk. I like to think that, anyway. Cheers.

  • Sean

    I think you guys definitely proved that there doesn’t have to be a time limit on a podcast!

  • James

    I would absolutely love to see Stalker remastered on blu-ray.

  • Colin

    Karaoke scene in Lost in Translation has some tracks I’d like to listen to on their own…

    Bob Harris – (What’s So Funny ‘Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding
    Charolette – Brass in Pocket

  • Brad Mull

    Ha ha, “in the world above planes, in a galaxy far far away comes tie fighter. He dosent like killing, darth vader is mean to him, but his about to find out that being a tie fighter isn’t it all cracked up to be, staring rob Schneider rated pg13″

  • Brad Mull

    Imagine the fanboy hate, the Internet would melt down

  • Sam

    i was kinda hoping you guys talked Big Bad Wolves. Liked the episode regardless, just felt weird to go back to something like Riddick rather than BBW.

  • Sean

    We just felt that Big Bad Wolves would be better to pair with something else. We’ll get to it next week.

  • Liney

    All good examples. I don’t really care about the ‘remake’ debate, was a bit of fun…it’s just when you were trying to think of examples I wanted to yell some at my iphone! :o)

  • Derek

    So glad Frank caught on to the molestation subtext when Sean said the librarian takes Mac Culkin into the back room. I was already thinking it and then Frank jumped right on it.

  • devolutionary

    Finally rewatched Enemy Mine last week (yes on Netflix). I remember seeing that movie countless times on Fox way back in the day as a child and really enjoying it. It didn’t hold up that well on a repeat viewing this time although I really liked the ideas and concepts the film was going for. The visual F/X (while 80s) still really screams low budget to me and the intro really reeks of that post-Star Wars treatment that so many early 80s films got. Louis Gosset Jr.’s performance as a Drac was good but not great. Some of those reverb voices he makes will be ingrained in my mind for years to come though.

  • Strybeck

    Murray as Harris appears in the actual soundtrack album. It’s Roxy Music’s “More Than This”, the hidden track at the end.

  • Dooobie

    And I would add Lesters “Petulia” and De Jarnatts “Miracle Mile”…

  • Indianamcclain

    In the end credits of Team America Kin Jong Ill sings a song called “You Are Worthless Alec Bawldwin” that is pretty good.

  • PlanBFromOuterSpace

    Dramatization! The term you’re looking for is dramatization! For example, “The Iceman” is a dramatization of all the Iceman interview documentaries that were done for HBO. In that case, it really added nothing new, except for a tacked-on narrative, as it pretty much just hit the bullet points (no pun intended) of the much more interesting interviews. I’m not finished listening yet, so I apologize if this comes up again later.

  • Sean

    Sure, that works!

  • PlanBFromOuterSpace

    Guys, guys, guys, guys, GUYS! How you could you have missed Dan Aykroyd and Tom Hanks rapping “City of Crime” on the “Dragnet” soundtrack? I owned that thing. DAN AYKROYD RAPPING, guys!

  • PlanBFromOuterSpace

    How COULD you, I meant. Dumb smart phone…

  • PlanBFromOuterSpace

    “Shawshank Redemption” is pretty much the closest thing to a guy’s version of a chick flick that I’ve ever seen. A dick flick, perhaps? Sounds painful. Anyway, I own the thing and I’ll still watch it each and every time it pops up on TV, which seems to be every 20 minutes or so…

  • bob John
  • Sam

    Regarding having to wait for a new Stephen King movie for a premium, how about stretching a bit and tying it in with Alexandre AJa’s Horns, whenever it comes out. Based on the novel by Stephen King’s son, Joe Hill. It also coincidentally stars Daniel Potter, bringing it back around to this month’s premium.

  • Stan

    Does Frank’s dad know about this???

    http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Terminal-Blu-ray/44111/

  • bob john

    Meanwhile, Frank’s dad’s dreams are coming true! http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Terminal-Blu-ray/44111/

  • Nate

    For crappy songs in movies sang by the movie character I got, The Pest opening rap in the bathroom by John Leguizamo and the granny rap from The Wedding Singer that’s in the official soundtrack.

  • woo

    I’ll come to Sean’s aid on the term remake here with my uncanny memory skills. Couple months ago Jay watched Little Dieter Needs to Fly and he said in his introduction to the film that this was the documentary that “Herzog essentially remade with Rescue Dawn” I may be paraphrasing a tad, but I specifically recall his use of the word remake.

  • Jay Cheel

    I may have said this, but I will qualify the statement by pointing out that Werner Herzog directed BOTH films. I use the term remake because he made the previous one and went on to make the new one. Otherwise, it would be two storytellers coming at the same content from different angles. Forget documentaries for a moment and ask yourself this: is David Fincher’s 2007 film “Zodiac” a REMAKE of Alexander Bulkly’s 2005 film “The Zodiac” (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371739/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2) simply because they are both based on the same true events?

  • Sean

    To re-iterate my own stance, I would agree that a fictional movie based on true events is not necessarily a remake of any given documentary about those true events. But as I pointed out below, there are cases where the source material for the fictional film (ie. what it is “based on” in the credits) is either the same as the documentary or the actual documentary itself.

    Since Man on Wire and the Robert Zemeckis film are both based on Philippe Petit’s book, not just a general retelling of what happened, I don’t think it’s crazy to call it a remake. But I can definitely see why they wouldn’t want to promote it that way.