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	<title>Comments on: Film Junk Premium Podcast: The Star Trek Original Motion Picture Franchise</title>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2013 17:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think most of us prefer the Lester cut so that will probably be the one we watch, but we&#039;ll definitely have to make a point of discussing the differences between the two versions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most of us prefer the Lester cut so that will probably be the one we watch, but we&#8217;ll definitely have to make a point of discussing the differences between the two versions.</p>
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		<title>By: scoobydelite</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scoobydelite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2013 17:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Sean, for next month&#039;s premium are you guys going to discuss Superman II Director&#039;s Cut along with the Lester version? IMO there&#039;s enough differences between the two to have an interesting conversation. The Director&#039;s Cut is the better of the two mainly because the Brando scenes added back in give the movie a much needed dramatic edge the Lester version lacks. Plus some of the goofy stuff is thankfully edited out. It seems quite a few fans prefer the Director&#039;s Cut.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sean, for next month&#8217;s premium are you guys going to discuss Superman II Director&#8217;s Cut along with the Lester version? IMO there&#8217;s enough differences between the two to have an interesting conversation. The Director&#8217;s Cut is the better of the two mainly because the Brando scenes added back in give the movie a much needed dramatic edge the Lester version lacks. Plus some of the goofy stuff is thankfully edited out. It seems quite a few fans prefer the Director&#8217;s Cut.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Farrington</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reed Farrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 18:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dken1: It&#039;s strange that Meyer is revered in Star Trek circles, but hasn&#039;t been able to get esteem for his non-Trek efforts. The mind-rape scene is controversial among Trekkies. We were running long, and I didn&#039;t think the other guys would have much to say about it.

@scoobydelite: I think I did bring up Kirk and McCoy&#039;s conversation on the cliff as being symbolic of the Star Trek franchise, so the Enterprise destruction moment wasn&#039;t completely overlooked by us. I agree the Kirk / Kruge fight was underwhelming. Actually, I should have put fistfights on my list of worse moments.

@Eric: We never see the knife going into the body. We get a Saavik reaction moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dken1: It&#8217;s strange that Meyer is revered in Star Trek circles, but hasn&#8217;t been able to get esteem for his non-Trek efforts. The mind-rape scene is controversial among Trekkies. We were running long, and I didn&#8217;t think the other guys would have much to say about it.</p>
<p>@scoobydelite: I think I did bring up Kirk and McCoy&#8217;s conversation on the cliff as being symbolic of the Star Trek franchise, so the Enterprise destruction moment wasn&#8217;t completely overlooked by us. I agree the Kirk / Kruge fight was underwhelming. Actually, I should have put fistfights on my list of worse moments.</p>
<p>@Eric: We never see the knife going into the body. We get a Saavik reaction moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 17:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You see it but I think the camera cuts away or something? I could be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see it but I think the camera cuts away or something? I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric from Illinois</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric from Illinois]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 16:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[surprised that all of you seemed to miss kirk&#039;s son&#039;s death. the klingon knocks him down, kneels over him and stabs him right in the chest. you all seemed to say that we never saw his death.

anyway... great work guys on another awesome premium]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surprised that all of you seemed to miss kirk&#8217;s son&#8217;s death. the klingon knocks him down, kneels over him and stabs him right in the chest. you all seemed to say that we never saw his death.</p>
<p>anyway&#8230; great work guys on another awesome premium</p>
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		<title>By: scoobydelite</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scoobydelite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 16:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was a little surprised two moments didn&#039;t appear in anyone&#039;s best/worst list, both from Star Trek III. One for the best list would be the crew watching the  destroyed Enterprise as it plummets down in the atmosphere, it is a beautiful yet melancholy scene and well-acted by the actors. For the worst of list would be the Kirk vs. Kruge fight and the cheesy &quot;I have had... enough... of YOU!&quot; line at the end of the fight. It&#039;s an uderwelming fight overall in general.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was a little surprised two moments didn&#8217;t appear in anyone&#8217;s best/worst list, both from Star Trek III. One for the best list would be the crew watching the  destroyed Enterprise as it plummets down in the atmosphere, it is a beautiful yet melancholy scene and well-acted by the actors. For the worst of list would be the Kirk vs. Kruge fight and the cheesy &#8220;I have had&#8230; enough&#8230; of YOU!&#8221; line at the end of the fight. It&#8217;s an uderwelming fight overall in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Dken1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dken1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 03:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if this was brought up yet but Nicolas Meyer was also a big reason for Star Trek IV&#039;s success and quality - he co-wrote the script, specifically the scenes on Earth.  Like what Joss Whedon did for Firefly and The Avengers, Meyer seems to be really good at giving most people in a big cast a chance to shine, (or at least something to do) ;)  

Your discussion of Star Trek V kind of reminded me of Prometheus, with Frank&#039;s discussion of people&#039;s desire to meet their maker.  The climax was just about as disappointing too.

Speaking of an Alien universe tie-in, I noticed that James Horner uses his main action cues from Star Trek III later in Aliens (another sci-fi series he takes over from Jerry Goldsmith).

I&#039;m kind of surprised that there wasn&#039;t more discussion about Spock&#039;s &quot;mind rape&quot; scene.  This is a clear example of how dangerous Vulcans can be if they weren&#039;t so disciplined and laid back most of the time.  That would have been great if Spock had a chance to interrogate &quot;the villain&quot; in the new movie in this way.

Fantastic podcast guys!  I wish I could have guest starred and co-geeked out with Reed (hehe).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this was brought up yet but Nicolas Meyer was also a big reason for Star Trek IV&#8217;s success and quality &#8211; he co-wrote the script, specifically the scenes on Earth.  Like what Joss Whedon did for Firefly and The Avengers, Meyer seems to be really good at giving most people in a big cast a chance to shine, (or at least something to do) <img src="https://filmjunk.com/cms/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley" />  </p>
<p>Your discussion of Star Trek V kind of reminded me of Prometheus, with Frank&#8217;s discussion of people&#8217;s desire to meet their maker.  The climax was just about as disappointing too.</p>
<p>Speaking of an Alien universe tie-in, I noticed that James Horner uses his main action cues from Star Trek III later in Aliens (another sci-fi series he takes over from Jerry Goldsmith).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kind of surprised that there wasn&#8217;t more discussion about Spock&#8217;s &#8220;mind rape&#8221; scene.  This is a clear example of how dangerous Vulcans can be if they weren&#8217;t so disciplined and laid back most of the time.  That would have been great if Spock had a chance to interrogate &#8220;the villain&#8221; in the new movie in this way.</p>
<p>Fantastic podcast guys!  I wish I could have guest starred and co-geeked out with Reed (hehe).</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 02:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just paid $5 for a 3-hour podcast. That can sound either ridiculously cheap or way too expensive - depending on your point of view. All I know is that Reed has been on fire lately, and I&#039;m really looking forward to this. And I CANT WAIT &#039;til the Superman Premium - I hope Greg would be into participating. Cheers, big ears...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just paid $5 for a 3-hour podcast. That can sound either ridiculously cheap or way too expensive &#8211; depending on your point of view. All I know is that Reed has been on fire lately, and I&#8217;m really looking forward to this. And I CANT WAIT &#8217;til the Superman Premium &#8211; I hope Greg would be into participating. Cheers, big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Farrington</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reed Farrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Owozifa: I must have had a mental connection with Spock when he went to get his boots. :-) And regarding Scotty knocking himself out, have you ever knocked your head against a metal beam while walking? Then again, I got up after running headfirst into an unpadded metal football fieldgoal post, so maybe you have a legitimate disbelief.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Owozifa: I must have had a mental connection with Spock when he went to get his boots. <img src="https://filmjunk.com/cms/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> And regarding Scotty knocking himself out, have you ever knocked your head against a metal beam while walking? Then again, I got up after running headfirst into an unpadded metal football fieldgoal post, so maybe you have a legitimate disbelief.</p>
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		<title>By: Owozifa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Owozifa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 07:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to admit one of the things I really like about Star Trek: The Motion Picture is its weirdness. Stuff like the transporter accident really freaked me out when I was a kid. But it was the one I might be most prone to falling asleep in.

I seriously would marathon all six movies in a row when I was like 12, though. These movies and Indiana Jones are probably some of my most watched films from youth.

And this was also one of the best premium podcasts yet, with some solid discussion. Reed too. Though I will note one error. Spock says nothing when he goes to get the hover boots in Star Trek V. Not &quot;I&#039;ll be right back&quot; or anything. They don&#039;t even know he&#039;s gone anywhere until he shows up with the boots. We just see him quietly leave the room after looking at the ladder for a moment. That&#039;s kind of the gag.

I&#039;m surprised nobody brought up how unlikely it would be for Scotty to manage to knock himself out by hitting his head walking at a casual speed, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit one of the things I really like about Star Trek: The Motion Picture is its weirdness. Stuff like the transporter accident really freaked me out when I was a kid. But it was the one I might be most prone to falling asleep in.</p>
<p>I seriously would marathon all six movies in a row when I was like 12, though. These movies and Indiana Jones are probably some of my most watched films from youth.</p>
<p>And this was also one of the best premium podcasts yet, with some solid discussion. Reed too. Though I will note one error. Spock says nothing when he goes to get the hover boots in Star Trek V. Not &#8220;I&#8217;ll be right back&#8221; or anything. They don&#8217;t even know he&#8217;s gone anywhere until he shows up with the boots. We just see him quietly leave the room after looking at the ladder for a moment. That&#8217;s kind of the gag.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised nobody brought up how unlikely it would be for Scotty to manage to knock himself out by hitting his head walking at a casual speed, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold Schizopolis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arnold Schizopolis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 04:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love this podcast!

Just re-watched II &amp; IV and saw III for the first time, which I enjoyed. I think the &quot;Khaaaan!&quot; scene in II is legit. Kirk just cheated death by sheer luck, which resulted in a Starfleet Captain committing suicide and left Chekov incapacitated. I think that was more on Kirk&#039;s mind when he screamed than the thought of the Enterprise being fixed quicker than expected.

But I think the knitpick of the biologist jumping onto Kirk during the teleport in IV is legit. Good Cronenberg reference. I think I love IV even more now.  It&#039;s like a feel-good Frank Capra classic. It might be tied with II now as my favorite of the original films.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this podcast!</p>
<p>Just re-watched II &amp; IV and saw III for the first time, which I enjoyed. I think the &#8220;Khaaaan!&#8221; scene in II is legit. Kirk just cheated death by sheer luck, which resulted in a Starfleet Captain committing suicide and left Chekov incapacitated. I think that was more on Kirk&#8217;s mind when he screamed than the thought of the Enterprise being fixed quicker than expected.</p>
<p>But I think the knitpick of the biologist jumping onto Kirk during the teleport in IV is legit. Good Cronenberg reference. I think I love IV even more now.  It&#8217;s like a feel-good Frank Capra classic. It might be tied with II now as my favorite of the original films.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Farrington</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reed Farrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 17:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@piggystardust: Oh, yeah, that sounds familiar. O&#039;Reilly was infected and shut down the engines. Sorry if it sounded like I was doubting the veracity of your initial comment. I&#039;ll have to check out how the &quot;black star&quot; fit into the episode.

@Movie Vigilante: Even I have enough taste to judge that Superman IV was very, very bad.

@James: My pleasure, James. I know that trying to please everybody results in pleasing nobody, so it&#039;s always pleasing to hear that someone still appreciates me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@piggystardust: Oh, yeah, that sounds familiar. O&#8217;Reilly was infected and shut down the engines. Sorry if it sounded like I was doubting the veracity of your initial comment. I&#8217;ll have to check out how the &#8220;black star&#8221; fit into the episode.</p>
<p>@Movie Vigilante: Even I have enough taste to judge that Superman IV was very, very bad.</p>
<p>@James: My pleasure, James. I know that trying to please everybody results in pleasing nobody, so it&#8217;s always pleasing to hear that someone still appreciates me.</p>
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