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	<title>Comments on: Open Forum Friday: Is Michael Bay an Auteur?</title>
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		<title>By: Sir Ridley Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sir Ridley Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2018 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Purely in visuals, yes.

Like Sir Ridley Scott.

Or Zack Snyder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purely in visuals, yes.</p>
<p>Like Sir Ridley Scott.</p>
<p>Or Zack Snyder.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 01:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe auteur to mean that basically you can watch a film without knowing who the director is and without problem figure it out.

Wes Anderson is probably the most obvious of choices.  To say he&#039;s not an auteur at this point is sheer stupidity.  As would be someone like Almodovar.

If you don&#039;t think auteurs exist, you&#039;re out of your mind.

Shane Carruth?  He has two movies that are quite different in tone and style.  If he directs another film and you showed it to me without telling me it is a Carruth work, I doubt I would be able to pinpoint it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe auteur to mean that basically you can watch a film without knowing who the director is and without problem figure it out.</p>
<p>Wes Anderson is probably the most obvious of choices.  To say he&#8217;s not an auteur at this point is sheer stupidity.  As would be someone like Almodovar.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t think auteurs exist, you&#8217;re out of your mind.</p>
<p>Shane Carruth?  He has two movies that are quite different in tone and style.  If he directs another film and you showed it to me without telling me it is a Carruth work, I doubt I would be able to pinpoint it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A discussion about auteur theory and not one mention of Tanantino? I&#039;m impressed.

I would disagree that Bay is an auteur simply because he has themes, visual styles, and a dumb sense of humor that he likes. That those things are present in his films is merely indicative that he&#039;s a director. My understanding of auteur theory (which I agree is dumb altogether) is that the author is shaping the film in every stage of production: writing, directing, acting, editing, and composing. At this point I think Shane Carruth is a good example of this. His films (especially Upstream Color) are very much his own creative voice. Even David Fincher doesn&#039;t really fit the auteur roll to me; he&#039;s just an excellent director.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A discussion about auteur theory and not one mention of Tanantino? I&#8217;m impressed.</p>
<p>I would disagree that Bay is an auteur simply because he has themes, visual styles, and a dumb sense of humor that he likes. That those things are present in his films is merely indicative that he&#8217;s a director. My understanding of auteur theory (which I agree is dumb altogether) is that the author is shaping the film in every stage of production: writing, directing, acting, editing, and composing. At this point I think Shane Carruth is a good example of this. His films (especially Upstream Color) are very much his own creative voice. Even David Fincher doesn&#8217;t really fit the auteur roll to me; he&#8217;s just an excellent director.</p>
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		<title>By: bullet3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bullet3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Let’s just call him an action auteur, just like John Woo, for example.&quot; Except minus all the talent, but yes I agree otherwise]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let’s just call him an action auteur, just like John Woo, for example.&#8221; Except minus all the talent, but yes I agree otherwise</p>
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		<title>By: Lior</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I recall correctly, the auteur theory came out of Truffaut&#039;s and the rest of the French New Wave guys fascination with Hitchcock, from the time they were still working as movie critics. Here was a director with a distinct, unmistakable style and themes that were woven consistently throughout his work. It meant that whatever creative team the director would have around him, his film will still remain unmistakably HIS.

The term was originally coined as an artistic concept which was applied to &quot;quality cinema&quot;, whatever that means. Ever since then it has expanded to include every director with a distinct style, even if his or hers body of work is not necessarily high art.

By that definition, Michael Bay is definitely an auteur. It&#039;s weird putting him under the same category as Hitchcock or Kubrick or even PT Anderson, but the fact remains that when you see a Michael Bay film you immediately know it&#039;s his. Let&#039;s just call him an action auteur, just like John Woo, for example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I recall correctly, the auteur theory came out of Truffaut&#8217;s and the rest of the French New Wave guys fascination with Hitchcock, from the time they were still working as movie critics. Here was a director with a distinct, unmistakable style and themes that were woven consistently throughout his work. It meant that whatever creative team the director would have around him, his film will still remain unmistakably HIS.</p>
<p>The term was originally coined as an artistic concept which was applied to &#8220;quality cinema&#8221;, whatever that means. Ever since then it has expanded to include every director with a distinct style, even if his or hers body of work is not necessarily high art.</p>
<p>By that definition, Michael Bay is definitely an auteur. It&#8217;s weird putting him under the same category as Hitchcock or Kubrick or even PT Anderson, but the fact remains that when you see a Michael Bay film you immediately know it&#8217;s his. Let&#8217;s just call him an action auteur, just like John Woo, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 02:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was never a big fan of Bay&#039;s films....especially after that peice of shit called Tranformer 2, came out. The majority of the women always look like models, there&#039;s always some African American stereotyping thrown in his films for comic relief, and his &quot;American Patriotic&quot; camera angles get on my nerves. His films do seem to sell like Roland Emmerich&#039;s films; but he has just always seemed like a wannabe James Cameron. I wouldn&#039;t that he would be considered the worst movie director, but I just don&#039;t waist my coin, watching his films, cause I think.....well.....They&#039;re Michael Bay films.....and I&#039;m about 75-80% sure that I know what to expect if I&#039;d watch it. The Island is surprisingly the only one of his films, I can actually sit through, but that&#039;s it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was never a big fan of Bay&#8217;s films&#8230;.especially after that peice of shit called Tranformer 2, came out. The majority of the women always look like models, there&#8217;s always some African American stereotyping thrown in his films for comic relief, and his &#8220;American Patriotic&#8221; camera angles get on my nerves. His films do seem to sell like Roland Emmerich&#8217;s films; but he has just always seemed like a wannabe James Cameron. I wouldn&#8217;t that he would be considered the worst movie director, but I just don&#8217;t waist my coin, watching his films, cause I think&#8230;..well&#8230;..They&#8217;re Michael Bay films&#8230;..and I&#8217;m about 75-80% sure that I know what to expect if I&#8217;d watch it. The Island is surprisingly the only one of his films, I can actually sit through, but that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: La Menthe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La Menthe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The auteur theory is stupid. Firstly, all directors, after making a certain number of films, become distinct. So this means that it has nothing to do with good artistic skills -- it is rather repetitive skills. Secondly, as I mentioned, being an auteur is many ways negative. A good artist is someone who is varied and makes different styles of films all the time, So that his creativity doesn&#039;t stop. That being said, someone&#039;s artistic touch opposed to their personal touch has its limits. You&#039;ll still end up, after viewing several of the director&#039;s films, with certain factors that will make you recognize the director&#039;s &quot;touch&quot;.

The auteur theory is also outdated and should be forgotten. The idea popped up at a time when directors were unknown and uniteresting to the audience. The theory was therefore introduced as a way of giving talented filmmakers some form of recognition. Obviously we&#039;ve reached a point where the term should be put on the shelf and forgotten.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The auteur theory is stupid. Firstly, all directors, after making a certain number of films, become distinct. So this means that it has nothing to do with good artistic skills &#8212; it is rather repetitive skills. Secondly, as I mentioned, being an auteur is many ways negative. A good artist is someone who is varied and makes different styles of films all the time, So that his creativity doesn&#8217;t stop. That being said, someone&#8217;s artistic touch opposed to their personal touch has its limits. You&#8217;ll still end up, after viewing several of the director&#8217;s films, with certain factors that will make you recognize the director&#8217;s &#8220;touch&#8221;.</p>
<p>The auteur theory is also outdated and should be forgotten. The idea popped up at a time when directors were unknown and uniteresting to the audience. The theory was therefore introduced as a way of giving talented filmmakers some form of recognition. Obviously we&#8217;ve reached a point where the term should be put on the shelf and forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: kyri</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kyri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[last part should had been &quot;an Auteur&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>last part should had been &#8220;an Auteur&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kyri</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kyri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know..</p>
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		<title>By: kyri</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kyri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because he&#039;s the artist Hollywood deserves, but not the one it needs right now...and so we&#039;ll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he&#039;s not an artist. He&#039;s a silent guardian, a watchful protector...a dark side of the Moon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because he&#8217;s the artist Hollywood deserves, but not the one it needs right now&#8230;and so we&#8217;ll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he&#8217;s not an artist. He&#8217;s a silent guardian, a watchful protector&#8230;a dark side of the Moon.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henrik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Above average puns for this one.

Michael Bay is an artist, he is the sort of artist Hollywood wants to create.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Above average puns for this one.</p>
<p>Michael Bay is an artist, he is the sort of artist Hollywood wants to create.</p>
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		<title>By: Stinker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stinker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From his first step on the „big“ Screen with the Playboy  Video Centrefold  „Kerri Kendall“ in 1990 till his opus  “Transformers” he has shown a clear preference to “nice” Lady, also the size varies. 

He also appears to incl. in everything esp. every Plot a orgy of cars, also “nice” and “tuned”, like his ladies, who at least once crash into each other.  No Body Orgy so far, but Shaia in training with the mighty Auteur Lars. So there is some hope for a Non Car Body orgy. 

Also he turns everything into a haze of camera Movement, where nobody knows where everything else is, and to be honest, nobody cares. Because of the cutting speed is so high, that turns into a blur.  

All in all, the man creates Movies which are unique, but this is also the case every pile of “shit” I dump in the toilet, this is also unique in its consistency and form.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From his first step on the „big“ Screen with the Playboy  Video Centrefold  „Kerri Kendall“ in 1990 till his opus  “Transformers” he has shown a clear preference to “nice” Lady, also the size varies. </p>
<p>He also appears to incl. in everything esp. every Plot a orgy of cars, also “nice” and “tuned”, like his ladies, who at least once crash into each other.  No Body Orgy so far, but Shaia in training with the mighty Auteur Lars. So there is some hope for a Non Car Body orgy. </p>
<p>Also he turns everything into a haze of camera Movement, where nobody knows where everything else is, and to be honest, nobody cares. Because of the cutting speed is so high, that turns into a blur.  </p>
<p>All in all, the man creates Movies which are unique, but this is also the case every pile of “shit” I dump in the toilet, this is also unique in its consistency and form.</p>
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