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	<title>Comments on: Open Forum Friday: Can a Movie Really Be So Bad It&#8217;s Good?</title>
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		<title>By: CGehring</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many losers are there on the Internet with a handle of Evan3457 (eg, http://waswatching.com/2013/10/20/1946-1967-2004-and-now-2013/; or http://waswatching.com/2011/01/13/reminds-me-of-the-old-joke-that-starts-kei-igawa-walks-into-a-bar/)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many losers are there on the Internet with a handle of Evan3457 (eg, <a href="http://waswatching.com/2013/10/20/1946-1967-2004-and-now-2013/" rel="nofollow">http://waswatching.com/2013/10/20/1946-1967-2004-and-now-2013/</a>; or <a href="http://waswatching.com/2011/01/13/reminds-me-of-the-old-joke-that-starts-kei-igawa-walks-into-a-bar/" rel="nofollow">http://waswatching.com/2011/01/13/reminds-me-of-the-old-joke-that-starts-kei-igawa-walks-into-a-bar/</a>)?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan3457</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan3457]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven Seagal&#039;s &quot;Out for Justice&quot;. I&#039;ll say no more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Seagal&#8217;s &#8220;Out for Justice&#8221;. I&#8217;ll say no more.</p>
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		<title>By: UKMark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UKMark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Starcrash aka The adventures of Stella Star is my favorite awesomely bad but great vote. Oscar winning cast and a score by the master of Bond music the late great John Barry and the beautiful Caroline Munro. Can&#039;t be here Friday so leaving this post guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starcrash aka The adventures of Stella Star is my favorite awesomely bad but great vote. Oscar winning cast and a score by the master of Bond music the late great John Barry and the beautiful Caroline Munro. Can&#8217;t be here Friday so leaving this post guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Lior</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@PlanB

I totally agree in principle. 

But it all comes to semantics. Most Hollywood movies these days with all their sleek technicality end up as being average. Neither bad nor good.

The fringes of the industry has always been filled with filmmakers who don&#039;t really know how to make films, but really really want to. So I agree, again, a genuine misfire is more memorable than another lazy, boring blockbuster. 

But it&#039;s really such a broad subject. There are truly very few so-bad-they&#039;re-good movies that are special enough to be considered important in any shape of form. I&#039;m not a bad movie connoisseur so my threshold is pretty high.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PlanB</p>
<p>I totally agree in principle. </p>
<p>But it all comes to semantics. Most Hollywood movies these days with all their sleek technicality end up as being average. Neither bad nor good.</p>
<p>The fringes of the industry has always been filled with filmmakers who don&#8217;t really know how to make films, but really really want to. So I agree, again, a genuine misfire is more memorable than another lazy, boring blockbuster. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s really such a broad subject. There are truly very few so-bad-they&#8217;re-good movies that are special enough to be considered important in any shape of form. I&#8217;m not a bad movie connoisseur so my threshold is pretty high.</p>
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		<title>By: PlanBFromOuterSpace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PlanBFromOuterSpace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Lior

I believe the opposite is true too, like you can have a &quot;good&quot; movie that is technically sound and has all the right components, but just DOESN&#039;T come together into anything that&#039;s all that entertaining, which is almost worse, because these movies tend to not be bad so much as just boring.  When dealing with &quot;bad&quot; movies that don&#039;t hit the mark, they&#039;re still funny for being misfires, whereas the &quot;good&quot; ones that fail are just kind of puzzling, because there&#039;s often no real reason why it shouldn&#039;t have been better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lior</p>
<p>I believe the opposite is true too, like you can have a &#8220;good&#8221; movie that is technically sound and has all the right components, but just DOESN&#8217;T come together into anything that&#8217;s all that entertaining, which is almost worse, because these movies tend to not be bad so much as just boring.  When dealing with &#8220;bad&#8221; movies that don&#8217;t hit the mark, they&#8217;re still funny for being misfires, whereas the &#8220;good&#8221; ones that fail are just kind of puzzling, because there&#8217;s often no real reason why it shouldn&#8217;t have been better.</p>
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		<title>By: Lior</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A movie can still be technically and cinematically incompetent (you can define this as &quot;bad&quot;), yet still have merit.
Plan 9 is the most famous bad movie ever made because despite its many shortcomings there&#039;s something genuine about it, something that comes from a real passion to create.

Just speaking for myself, there aren&#039;t many movies I consider &quot;so bad they&#039;re good&quot;. I might get a kick seeing Troll 2 with a howling audience, but when you watch this stuff alone at home it loses its appeal. So a really good movie needs to work without the context of a post-modern, laughing audience.
Also, when people mention that a movie is so bad it&#039;s good, they usually mean that it&#039;s so bad it&#039;s funny. So I guess that means bad movies can be considered good comedies. That&#039;s a lot or reinforcement for the comedy genre.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A movie can still be technically and cinematically incompetent (you can define this as &#8220;bad&#8221;), yet still have merit.<br />
Plan 9 is the most famous bad movie ever made because despite its many shortcomings there&#8217;s something genuine about it, something that comes from a real passion to create.</p>
<p>Just speaking for myself, there aren&#8217;t many movies I consider &#8220;so bad they&#8217;re good&#8221;. I might get a kick seeing Troll 2 with a howling audience, but when you watch this stuff alone at home it loses its appeal. So a really good movie needs to work without the context of a post-modern, laughing audience.<br />
Also, when people mention that a movie is so bad it&#8217;s good, they usually mean that it&#8217;s so bad it&#8217;s funny. So I guess that means bad movies can be considered good comedies. That&#8217;s a lot or reinforcement for the comedy genre.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikke_AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vikke_AJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I only know one thing... Miami Connection is awesome!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only know one thing&#8230; Miami Connection is awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Owozifa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Owozifa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the only bad movie is a boring movie. It&#039;s really hard to even laugh at a boring movie.

A really fun &quot;bad&quot; movie for me is Deathstalker II. I laughed so hard I cried during that one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the only bad movie is a boring movie. It&#8217;s really hard to even laugh at a boring movie.</p>
<p>A really fun &#8220;bad&#8221; movie for me is Deathstalker II. I laughed so hard I cried during that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Burton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Burton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 04:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We gotta get the pot stirring more on open forum Fridays.

I PUT FORTH...

All art is subjective.
All film is art.
Therefore, all films are subjective.
Therefore, there&#039;s no such thing as a bad movie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We gotta get the pot stirring more on open forum Fridays.</p>
<p>I PUT FORTH&#8230;</p>
<p>All art is subjective.<br />
All film is art.<br />
Therefore, all films are subjective.<br />
Therefore, there&#8217;s no such thing as a bad movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My favorite &quot;so bad it&#039;s good&quot; flick is Die Hard 5. Haven&#039;t seen it yet, of course, but I&#039;ve got a good/bad feeling I&#039;m gonna love it...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite &#8220;so bad it&#8217;s good&#8221; flick is Die Hard 5. Haven&#8217;t seen it yet, of course, but I&#8217;ve got a good/bad feeling I&#8217;m gonna love it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fatbologna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fatbologna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arguing semantics on the internet is like trying to fuck a ghost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguing semantics on the internet is like trying to fuck a ghost.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan Costrada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juan Costrada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best star system is based around how entertaining you find a film, rather than its perceived &quot;greatness&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best star system is based around how entertaining you find a film, rather than its perceived &#8220;greatness&#8221;.</p>
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