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	<title>Comments on: Open Forum Friday: Is P.T. Anderson Crossing the Line by Criticizing Scientology?</title>
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		<title>By: shutthrfuckup</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shutthrfuckup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 04:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[art is supposed to be critical of society.
you, also, are stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>art is supposed to be critical of society.<br />
you, also, are stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew hernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 02:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only reason that Christianity does not sound crazy and irrational to many is 

because they are used to it, it is part of popular culture. If I was the only one in the 

world that believed a 2000 year old zombie watches over me, I would probably 

be committed to a mental institution. But because millions believe this, it is called 

a religion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason that Christianity does not sound crazy and irrational to many is </p>
<p>because they are used to it, it is part of popular culture. If I was the only one in the </p>
<p>world that believed a 2000 year old zombie watches over me, I would probably </p>
<p>be committed to a mental institution. But because millions believe this, it is called </p>
<p>a religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[America (and Canada) has a bill or rights with freedom or religion and freedom of speech. Freedom of speech covers artistic expression. So it is within a filmmaker&#039;s rights to say what he wants with his art. Now whether he is doing anything productive by this is questionable. I know very little about Scientology, but as a Christian I don&#039;t feel very good about movies that criticize religion based on characters or documentary subjects who are fundamentalist fanatics representing the minority (i.e. I&#039;m not anxious to ever see &quot;Religulous.&quot; Maybe this is what Cruise saw in Anderson&#039;s rough cut. I mean you especially wouldn&#039;t want a character that is represent to be your religion&#039;s founder looking like a fanatic. Why don&#039;t scientologists just make their own movies representing their beliefs? Oh wait, that was &quot;Battlefield Earth,&quot; wasn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America (and Canada) has a bill or rights with freedom or religion and freedom of speech. Freedom of speech covers artistic expression. So it is within a filmmaker&#8217;s rights to say what he wants with his art. Now whether he is doing anything productive by this is questionable. I know very little about Scientology, but as a Christian I don&#8217;t feel very good about movies that criticize religion based on characters or documentary subjects who are fundamentalist fanatics representing the minority (i.e. I&#8217;m not anxious to ever see &#8220;Religulous.&#8221; Maybe this is what Cruise saw in Anderson&#8217;s rough cut. I mean you especially wouldn&#8217;t want a character that is represent to be your religion&#8217;s founder looking like a fanatic. Why don&#8217;t scientologists just make their own movies representing their beliefs? Oh wait, that was &#8220;Battlefield Earth,&#8221; wasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Wahoo Capybara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Wahoo Capybara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact is, Sean, that I was not at all critical of religion in the reply I wrote but I was critical of this article you wrote. Particularly the headline, which asks if Mr. Anderson has been &quot;Crossing the Line by Criticizing Scientology?&quot; which made me think when I saw it that he had personally made some comments or statements to that effect.

He has not and unless you have watched his film I don&#039;t think you can even give a fair opinion about if the film makes such criticism. 

I actually don&#039;t know what your thoughts are with regards to religion or discussion of it. 

You state in your response:

&quot;Still, I am surprised when people say that Christianity and Islam are criticized so often. I would say the opposite.&quot;

The fact is, Sean, that I was not at all critical of religion in the reply I wrote but I was critical of this article you wrote. Particularly the headline, which asks if Mr. Anderson has been &quot;Crossing the Line by Criticizing Scientology?&quot; which made me think when I saw it that he had personally made some comments or statements to that effect.

He has not and unless you have watched his film I don&#039;t think you can even give a fair opinion about if the film makes such criticism. 

I actually don&#039;t know what your thoughts are with regards to religion or discussion of it. 

You state in your response:

&quot;Still, I am surprised when people say that Christianity and Islam are criticized so often. I would say the opposite.&quot;

Really? Christianity has been deeply criticized throughout its history. Islam has been criticized for engendering violent, oppressive and brutal social norms in the societies where it is practiced and just made headline news again with the public execution of a woman that was raped, then charged with adultery, then tortured, then shot 9 times in public.

The Israelis put the Jewish faith on the block every time they kill innocents in the Gaza Strip. Of course when the Palestinians respond this puts Islam in the news. It is a vicious cycle.

Religion is under fire and heavily criticized all the time and in most cases it is well deserved. 

Scientology works as a pyramid scheme and should not even be characterized as a religion but rather a business with a self-help philosophy. It has also been in the news recently for the mistreatment of children and treating them as slave laborers while keeping them imprisoned under threat...including physical abuse. 

The FBI has an on-going investigation. 

Do I think all that is open to debate and criticism? You bet I do.

Still how does this relate to a film that has not even been released yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is, Sean, that I was not at all critical of religion in the reply I wrote but I was critical of this article you wrote. Particularly the headline, which asks if Mr. Anderson has been &#8220;Crossing the Line by Criticizing Scientology?&#8221; which made me think when I saw it that he had personally made some comments or statements to that effect.</p>
<p>He has not and unless you have watched his film I don&#8217;t think you can even give a fair opinion about if the film makes such criticism. </p>
<p>I actually don&#8217;t know what your thoughts are with regards to religion or discussion of it. </p>
<p>You state in your response:</p>
<p>&#8220;Still, I am surprised when people say that Christianity and Islam are criticized so often. I would say the opposite.&#8221;</p>
<p>The fact is, Sean, that I was not at all critical of religion in the reply I wrote but I was critical of this article you wrote. Particularly the headline, which asks if Mr. Anderson has been &#8220;Crossing the Line by Criticizing Scientology?&#8221; which made me think when I saw it that he had personally made some comments or statements to that effect.</p>
<p>He has not and unless you have watched his film I don&#8217;t think you can even give a fair opinion about if the film makes such criticism. </p>
<p>I actually don&#8217;t know what your thoughts are with regards to religion or discussion of it. </p>
<p>You state in your response:</p>
<p>&#8220;Still, I am surprised when people say that Christianity and Islam are criticized so often. I would say the opposite.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? Christianity has been deeply criticized throughout its history. Islam has been criticized for engendering violent, oppressive and brutal social norms in the societies where it is practiced and just made headline news again with the public execution of a woman that was raped, then charged with adultery, then tortured, then shot 9 times in public.</p>
<p>The Israelis put the Jewish faith on the block every time they kill innocents in the Gaza Strip. Of course when the Palestinians respond this puts Islam in the news. It is a vicious cycle.</p>
<p>Religion is under fire and heavily criticized all the time and in most cases it is well deserved. </p>
<p>Scientology works as a pyramid scheme and should not even be characterized as a religion but rather a business with a self-help philosophy. It has also been in the news recently for the mistreatment of children and treating them as slave laborers while keeping them imprisoned under threat&#8230;including physical abuse. </p>
<p>The FBI has an on-going investigation. </p>
<p>Do I think all that is open to debate and criticism? You bet I do.</p>
<p>Still how does this relate to a film that has not even been released yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in the same boat as Sean. Some how I&#039;m pretty much only comfortable with the film if P.T. Anderson is Atheist, because a Christian&#039;s attack on Scientology would seem to be more out of spite than just wanting to genuinely objective story or a satirical look at the religion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the same boat as Sean. Some how I&#8217;m pretty much only comfortable with the film if P.T. Anderson is Atheist, because a Christian&#8217;s attack on Scientology would seem to be more out of spite than just wanting to genuinely objective story or a satirical look at the religion.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymiss</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i don&#039;t know, if they cut out the line i will be peeved]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t know, if they cut out the line i will be peeved</p>
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		<title>By: rus in chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rus in chicago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Master, Battleship Earth premium podcast?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Master, Battleship Earth premium podcast?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I shouldn&#039;t be surprised that there are so many Film Junkers in favour of being critical of religion. I&#039;m sure everyone knows what my own thoughts are.

Still, I am surprised when people say that Christianity and Islam are criticized so often. I would say the opposite. The whole reason for posting this topic is because I felt like Scientology is open game while other religions are not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I shouldn&#8217;t be surprised that there are so many Film Junkers in favour of being critical of religion. I&#8217;m sure everyone knows what my own thoughts are.</p>
<p>Still, I am surprised when people say that Christianity and Islam are criticized so often. I would say the opposite. The whole reason for posting this topic is because I felt like Scientology is open game while other religions are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Wahoo Capybara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Wahoo Capybara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where did the idea that Mr. Anderson is criticizing anything come from? Has he penned an article, done an interview, specifically stated at any point his feelings on Scientology? 

The Master is a fictional film that will tell a fictional story. Scientology is not mentioned in the film nor is L. Ron Hubbard.

Did you think perhaps that Mr. Anderson may have screened the film for Cruise to show him that there is no focus on or criticism of Scientology present? 

From the clips now available from the film what it appears to be is a rather intense character study and not a vicious howl about any religion. 

Basically I think it is fairly irresponsible to promote the idea that this film is criticizing anybody or their religion as that is tantamount to suggesting that artists or any citizen in this country should consider censoring themselves before creating a work of art, putting pen to paper, fingers to keyboard, or even opening their mouth. What exactly was your point here Sean? Have you even seen the film yet?

We live in a country where freedom of speech is our right and if I wanted to compose or create something critical of another person&#039;s beliefs, particularly a religion, I or we may do so and people that hold those beliefs are free to respond.

So frankly I do not even see what you are getting at here other than stirring the pot...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did the idea that Mr. Anderson is criticizing anything come from? Has he penned an article, done an interview, specifically stated at any point his feelings on Scientology? </p>
<p>The Master is a fictional film that will tell a fictional story. Scientology is not mentioned in the film nor is L. Ron Hubbard.</p>
<p>Did you think perhaps that Mr. Anderson may have screened the film for Cruise to show him that there is no focus on or criticism of Scientology present? </p>
<p>From the clips now available from the film what it appears to be is a rather intense character study and not a vicious howl about any religion. </p>
<p>Basically I think it is fairly irresponsible to promote the idea that this film is criticizing anybody or their religion as that is tantamount to suggesting that artists or any citizen in this country should consider censoring themselves before creating a work of art, putting pen to paper, fingers to keyboard, or even opening their mouth. What exactly was your point here Sean? Have you even seen the film yet?</p>
<p>We live in a country where freedom of speech is our right and if I wanted to compose or create something critical of another person&#8217;s beliefs, particularly a religion, I or we may do so and people that hold those beliefs are free to respond.</p>
<p>So frankly I do not even see what you are getting at here other than stirring the pot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Klond</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Klond]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ofcourse you can critisize religion, what kind of scary comment is that, that you cant criticize someones belife.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ofcourse you can critisize religion, what kind of scary comment is that, that you cant criticize someones belife.</p>
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		<title>By: anton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there is no difference between religious and political views. To protect religion from criticism under the notion of &quot;sacred&quot; is thought dictatoriship in disguise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is no difference between religious and political views. To protect religion from criticism under the notion of &#8220;sacred&#8221; is thought dictatoriship in disguise.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He may be scrutinising the organisation behind Scientology more than the religion itself. I myself find that some one can worship what ever they chose without it being called into question on a public stage. Even aspects of the oldest, most established religions are ridiculous, but never seem to get that much press. The actions, however, of the &quot;Church&quot; of Scientology are inhumane and don&#039;t receive enough attention. Anderson&#039;s latest may be a story of morality and distortion of values, as well as a cautionary tale on the religion itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He may be scrutinising the organisation behind Scientology more than the religion itself. I myself find that some one can worship what ever they chose without it being called into question on a public stage. Even aspects of the oldest, most established religions are ridiculous, but never seem to get that much press. The actions, however, of the &#8220;Church&#8221; of Scientology are inhumane and don&#8217;t receive enough attention. Anderson&#8217;s latest may be a story of morality and distortion of values, as well as a cautionary tale on the religion itself.</p>
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