Comments on: The Hobbit Footage Screens at 48 fps; The Internet Does Not Approve https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/ The World's Longest-Running Movie Podcast Fri, 24 Sep 2021 00:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.33 By: HD Hamburglar https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5900224 Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:15:45 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5900224 People are always scared of change. The transition from silent film to sound, BW to Color, SD to HD, and now to 48 fps. We have to progess technology in spite of all the whiners and film snobs.

]]> By: George https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5182803 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:35:04 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5182803 That “cinematic” looks people are talking about is arbitrary. It’s just what you’re used to is all. If all film was sho tin 48fps from the get go this wouldn’t be an issue, but there are so many morons out there talking about how it looks cheap. It doesn’t look cheap. It looks smooth, TV looks smooth. Cinema still has superior image quality and sound, so stfu you utter morons.

]]> By: Possum Hunter https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5175766 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:58:12 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5175766 As Brendan says what is being described sounds a lot like the ‘smooth motion’ or ‘true motion’ setting that comes with a lot of new LCD HD TVs. When I first bought my full HD Samsung 47″ TV this option defaulted to on and my Blu-ray’s looked horrible, much like behind the scenes footage and I couldn’t get into the films. It made every film feel cheap and nasty. I was contemplating taking the TV back until I realised what the issue was and found out how to turn it off and ever since then movies look like movies rather than HD home video.

]]> By: Film https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5170393 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:58:05 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5170393 EVERYBODY INTERESTED IN THIS SHOULD LISTEN TO WHAT THE GUEST HAS TO SAY ON THIS VIDEO! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZd-UoYWCY&list=PL62ABBF907BCDB44E&index=1&feature=plcp

]]> By: Theman https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5164973 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:11:43 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5164973 I wonder if he can go back in it? The trailer look awesome I wonder why it wasn’t in 48fps? Personally I’m curious but I wish he’d experiment with a less important film.

]]> By: Brendan https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5164112 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 03:16:49 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5164112 “…that soap opera look you get from badly calibrated TVs at Best Buy” is actually the “smooth motion” (or similarly named) effect that is often seen on 120hz and 240hz HDTVs. It’s not exactly “bad calibration” of those tvs, just that it’s an option that is usually selectable by the tv’s owner. It was meant to reduce “judder” (a jerkiness of motion) which is created due to differences in the frame rate of content like film and the TV’s native frame rate. Most films are shot in about 24 fps. Since modern TVs can only show more frames per second than that, that means some of the film’s frames have to be shown twice in order for the frame rates to line up properly. With smooth motion frame interpolation, the TVs don’t just re-show the same frame twice, they actually create frames to go in between, which reduces judder but it makes motion look smoother due to the additional frames. Since video tape commonly used 30 fps, and modern video frame rates for things like live events use 60 fps, the smooth motion interpolation effect makes films look more like those shot at higher frame rates. Since it no longer has that “film” look we’re used to, people don’t like it. We also associate it with things that were produced on video at higher frame rates, like soap operas and other TV content, because video was less expensive (and faster) to use than film. So we also think it looks cheaper by association.
Sorry that was so long. I should have just put in a link instead.

]]> By: James https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5163085 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:13:39 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5163085 @15

And that is my bigger worry, never mind frame rate! Dunno…I get this weird feeling we might get another Phantom Menace in that the film is more for kids. Also core audience being 10 years older may make the perception different now. I hope I’m wrong…

]]> By: Owozifa https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5163003 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:43:02 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5163003 @11

I wasn’t really calling you out or anything, just the article didn’t seem to be that much about random people on the Internet.

]]> By: BarBar https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5162722 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:28:55 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5162722 It can’t help that the still on this item looks like a live action Fraggle Rock

]]> By: Swivel https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5162639 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:08:30 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5162639 I think people need to get used to 48fps. That’s what happened with the “talkies”, decades ago. Exactly the same.

I approve it.

]]> By: James https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5162550 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:44:35 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5162550 I’m going to guess that if it looks to stark and like video they will just apply some filters to “warm” the image a bit? I remember during the LOTR years there were special features on the DVD’s etc touting how they digitally toned images post editing to help on the eye. Maybe a similar solution…less stark and jolting but still smoother to watch?

]]> By: curtis talls https://filmjunk.com/2012/04/25/the-hobbit-footage-screens-at-48-fps-the-internet-does-not-approve/comment-page-1/#comment-5162498 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:29:49 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=75421#comment-5162498 High frame rate is the worst. It makes everything look like General Hospital. Hate this Idea.

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