Film Junk Podcast Episode #293: Due Date

0:00 – Intro
3:20 – Headlines: First Photos from Spielberg’s Tintin, MGM Plans New Bond Film for 2012, Roland Emmerich Plans Low Budget Alien Invasion Film, The Dilemma Gay Joke Pulled from Trailer, Kevin Smith Lashes Out at Critics Again
29:46 – Review: Due Date
56:35 – Trailer Trash: Sucker Punch, Hall Pass
1:18:40 – Other Stuff We Watched: The Walking Dead, Hunt to Kill, Legendary, Winnebago Man, Pieces, The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia, Deadliest Catch, The Larry Sanders Show, Billy Connolly Live, ESPN 30 for 30, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Rudo y Cursi
1:47:37 – Junk Mail: Darkchylde, Critic Quotes in Movie Marketing, Subtitles, Liverpool Takeover, Mall Movies and Moments, Children of Men
2:12:22 – This Week’s DVD Releases
2:15:25 – Twitter Poll: What is your favourite road trip comedy?
2:18:55 – Outro

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  • Mactavian

    So I’m 25 minutes in the cast, and I’m loving Frank and Greg together. This should happen more often.

    But in regards to the gay joke in the Dilemma, I think it is offensive, mostly because it isn’t a joke about gay people (which I have nothing against). It is using the word “gay” in a explicitly negative manner which only perpetuates the this uncomfortable duality where gay means a guy who likes dudes, and terrible. It isn’t even a joke at the expense of gay people, it is just equating the word “gay” with bad, and that is fuckin’ gay!!

    But whether or not they should have pulled the joke, I don’t know. They do have a point that just because a character says it in the movie, doesn’t mean the film endorses that view, but that only works if the film is self aware about it. Something tells me this joke is just gonna be buried in one of Vince Vaugns “witty” monologues and never referred to again.

    The shitty part is, the people who are going to laugh at that “gay joke” are the ones who think it is fine to go around calling everything they don’t like gay, while still claiming not to be a homophobe.

  • FoxMulder

    Nothing against gay people, but is it me or are they becoming unbearably self-important? Gays are not the only ones who are made fun of in movies!! GET ON WITH IT!

  • rjdelight

    Didn’t The Dilemma controversy happen like a month ago?

  • bard

    The whole controversy about The Dilemma is pretty dumb. There are a TON of movies that have “offensive” jokes about gays, different races, religion, etc… It’s obviously a PR move.

  • Goon

    link to the youtube video?

  • Goon

    (dot com)

  • Mark In Ottawa

    This was pretty good. Thanks Guys.

    Some questions:

    1. Is Frank now the 4th member of the Film Junk Podcast ? If so Bravo – He tells the BEST stories.

    2. Is Jay OK ? It seems he’s become a little more serious.

    Greg – Good Luck vs. the Argos – OSKEE WEE WEE !

  • Nelson Smith

    This is completely off topic but I just finished watching the latest “The Wolfman” movie with Benicio del Toro and Anthony Hopkins and I loved it.

    This was a movie that I had originally wanted to see when it was first released in theaters and I read or heard a lot of negative reviews about the special effects and stuff so I dismissed it and never saw it, until today.

    It’s not my favorite movie of the year but I really enjoyed it and I regret not seeing it until now. It’s an example of me listening to a negative review or another person’s opinion of a movie and forming a judgment based solely on that alone.

    It’s not the first time that I have seen something that most people have bashed and came to really enjoy for myself. It makes me wonder what other movies are out there that I have skipped over for these reasons that I would probably love, and for that matter are there people and places and things that I have just disregarded because of what someone else said when I should have just checked things out for myself before forming an opinion.

  • rjdelight

    @ Mark in Ottawa

    I hope so! I’ve been saying Frank should be the permanent fourth chair for a while now. He’s great!

  • I think we’re definitely going to try and get Frank on the show on a more regular basis as opposed to just having him fill in when an extra guest is needed.

  • Foxmulder

    Yeah he is great! However, keep in mind there is the law of diminishing returns….

  • foodshooter

    Wow Jay was on comic fire with his quips. He should smoke PCP more often before he gets on the show. “It came out the butthole” about killed me. Something about that dudes dryness & timing really works well. Maybe he should consider a career in stand up.

    Away We Go was a good romcom road trip movie from the past couple years. Actually, that just reminded me of one of my all time faves – Flirting With Disaster. Loved that one when Ben Stiller was still a fresh face. Lots of kooky characters as well.

    I can see both sides of the argument as using the word “gay” in a negative fashion. On the one hand I do think it is somewhat harmless but on the other, it is a still perpetually being used as a pejorative. I would think the N-word went through something similar in the past. I still use the word gay when talking to buddies even though I probably shouldn’t. Force of habit from grade school perhaps? Either way, it’s obvious that does still get used in groups of guys so therefor it is relative.

  • Mason

    The “Do you know how I know you’re gay?” bit was from The 40-Year Old Virgin (not Knocked Up) and was one of the funniest scenes in the movie. Still my favorite comedy of the 00s.

  • projectgenesis

    @foodshooter I love Flirting With Disaster as well. He gets a bad rap but David O Russell is equal to Aronofsky and PTA to me. Each has made four VERY fine pieces of cinema. Can’t wait for The Fighter.

  • rjdelight

    David O Russell gets a bad rap because he berates crew members and fights with his actors (both verbally and physically). I agree that the guy has churned out a couple of good if not great flicks, but he’s definitely a loose cannon. Nowhere near Aronofsky or PTA in my opinion.

  • kyri

    When are you going to resolve the SouthPark VS FamilyGuy debate?

    (FRank and Sean)

  • Still waiting for Frank to give me his top 10 episodes!

  • jonzi

    Would love to see a “landing” mash-up video. You could probably assemble it here:

  • Steve K

    I really enjoy the 30 for 30 series and also agree that Reggie Miller’s is probably the best because of Spike Lee. I was wondering if you guys saw Kings Ransom? How Gretzky got traded by Peter Berg?
    Its not as publicized on TSN than the Terry Fox one but it really gives you a good glimpse into the trade and the business of sports.

  • Excellent episode! One of the best in a long while. Both Jay and Greg were on the top of their game.

  • Henrik

    I love Frank, but he didn’t seem as active in this episode. Maybe it’s because I’ve gotten used to his GameJunk zeal, which is amazing.

  • Brendan

    Seems like a lot of people “love” Frank. Not to be contrary, but I don’t get it. I don’t hate him or anything, but I don’t get what the outpouring is based on. But, if the rest of the FJ crew enjoys having him on, I guess that’s all that matters.
    As far as the gay joke, it’s like Sean mentioned about Kenny Powers in Eastbound and Down. A character can be unlikable and say unlikable things. Even though it’s a comedy, it doesn’t mean there can’t be characters who are a-holes and say things an a-hole would say (isn’t that what Vince Vaughn has built a career on?).
    That said, it’s not a good joke! It’s dated, it’s just not funny, and it’s not worth getting worked up over on either side.

  • Mark In Ottawa

    Brendan – Don’t be like that.

    Frank is awesome. You know it and I know it.

    Accept it.

    Frank – We need a Top 10 Costner flick list.

    Being critical of Frank is like being critical of Sean. Both are awesome and have big penises (according to Greg).

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  • Sam

    Congrats on your cultural relevance alongside some lofty peers!

  • projectgenesis

    Wow Nice find Sam!! It’s hilarious to read an objective write-up of the FJP.

    “While this podcast leans dangerously towards irrelevant rambling on occasion, the hosts are amusing enough that they are entertaining to listen to even when they talk about hockey or their collections of Star Wars memorabilia. The insights of documentary filmmaker and co-host Jay Cheel are of particular interest.”

    Star Wars memorabilia?!?! I think Reed should be offended.

  • Thanks for the heads up Sam! It seems insane that they would include us alongside podcasts by the New York Times and NPR, among others. Especially since we lean so heavily toward, you know, irrelevant rambling. But still very nice of them to do so.

    I don’t know where the Star Wars memorabilia thing came from though. I guess they watched Reed’s House and got mixed up? Unforgivable! ;)

  • ScottHK

    I’m also strangely transfixed with ‘Deadliest Catch’ though the story of catching crab catching crab in every single episode isn’t necessarily that interesting. I think the narrator Mike Rowe adds a lot to it, he’s the guy from ‘dirty jobs’. He gave a great speech on

    ‘rudo y cursi’ is a fun film but didn’t have quite the weight that ‘y tu mama tambien’ had which i would recommend one to watch first.

    the topic of what hollyvitz actors will play gay roles was a bit interesting, but the gay jokes in films topic was gay and better left for E! television.

    hey…for the episode 300 clip mashup, how much sampled music can we use? what’s the guideline for podcasts when it comes to playing copyrighted material? do they fit under the radio airplay exemption?

  • There’s no real limit on the sampled music… we play copyrighted music for our intro and outro all the time. Maybe one day we’ll have to pay more attention to this stuff, but not at the moment.

  • Sam

    “Especially since we lean so heavily toward, you know, irrelevant rambling.”

    Yeah, since when is hockey and Star Wars irrelevant to pop culture? Oh well — it’s hard to hate on them.