give me Reed’s phone #, I’ll go after him Mel Gibson style!!!!

lol @ rus

The live streams are most excellent.

I’m so excited I pee’d my pants a little

I saw inception last night and I still don’t know exactly what to make of it.

Its a very good film and like Sean said, it is an example of what true movie freaks look to discover, now and then, at the cinema.

To watch this film you need to be prepared to pay attention almost as much as you did the first time you watched Memento.

Nolan did recreate the feel of The Matrix. That’s interesting, I can attest to the frustrating feelings The Matrix has caused screenwriters over the years. I can personally tell of times were I was working on a sci-fi idea only to stop and realize I was remaking The Matrix!? The appeal and dominance The Matrix has over the genre (and Nolan positively recaptures here) is a system were the human characters can be jeopardy but not really, therefore, allowing superhuman danger and action.

I would be lying if I didn’t say I fear for the future of this film; in my showing there were actual people that walked out! I’ve never seen people walk out of a film because it was TO intense or mindbending.

Hear me out, in that way this film is like “Lady in the Water”; a powerful director gets a very artful and cerebral film greenlit for a HUGE production and marketing budget that the film’s inherent audience can’t support. I hope, hope, hope, I’m wrong but if this doesn’t do really well after the first week on “word of mouth” it will hurt Nolan’s and other directors ability to get these type films greenlit. I feel its a double edged sword were these films need a huge budget for production but with that budget they get compared with Shrek and T2! I don’t know, guess I worry to much…

OK SPOILER AND SOMETHING I’D LIKE THE GUYS TO DISCUSS IN THE PODCAST:

The one scene I had a real problem with and need some help analyzing is the warehouse scene after the team first encounters Fischer’s projections. If you remember, it was the scene were they start “pointing fingers” and have a “we’re f*cked” moment. Now I completely understand why the scene is constructed the way it is; its a scene to “turn-the-tables” on our heroes because up to that point everything has been going very smoothly for them and Nolan needs to put them in immediate jeopardy early in the dream sharing. The problem I have is the scene is literally only half-developed and undercuts the logic Nolan has set-up. In the arguing back-and-forth we learn that the team members have kept information from each other (specifically Cobb) and they can “die” inside the dream, or, be suspended in “limbo” I believe – its implied this is really bad to the characters true physical self. Now I know Nolan needs to put this uber cool team at risk, but this undercuts the fact that earlier he established you can’t “die” inside the dram sharing.

((Nolan has that great scene were he establishes pain is felt in dreams, so I expected a Morpheus type torture scene, yet this idea was never developed))

It also makes no sense why the team members, other than Cobb, would go forward after this point. If the team members find out they are in a “no-win situation” why would they risk their lives over just money. I guess that’s what the scene needed; more obvious feeling of greed on part of the secondary team members to show motivation for going further. Am I missing something? Could they not get out before the “kick”, did they have to stay to save Saito (doesn’t make sense as he isn’t a long time friend)?

Anyway, good film, the other issues I’ll wait to hear about in the podcast, such as, the ending and if Cobb ever really left his deep subconscious???!!!

that makes sense…I want to mention a weird thing that happened during this film going experience. when we left the film I had to race to get my car over to my condo so I could be picked up by the group driving to dinner. I guess due to my hunger and not giving myself time to decompress after the film, while moving through Chicago traffic I actually felt I was dreaming!!! I literally had to tell myself “Rus, you’re not dreaming, pay attention you are going to hit someone!”

very cool, I swear I wasn’t on anything, I have not had a movie going experience like that in a long time!

I just saw the film. Hope I remember about the live cast on Monday. It’s definitely worthy of a lot of discussion and lively debate.

Reed,

How is that you consider Star Trek the ultimate in hard sci-fi and seem to have a love for science fiction but hate anything new that comes along that attempts something interesting? Where are your standards at? Star Trek isn’t really that well made, man. It’s cool enough, I guess, but it’s not the be all end all of HARD sci-fi.

You called out Jay for saying The Rocketeer was a good movie on the basis of nostalgia, don’t you think that’s where most of your dislike of new sci-fi comes from? It doesn’t hit the same nostalgia button for you that Trek does so you’re cold to it.

Battlestar Galactica’s a far superior show to Trek in almost every way but I’m sure you’re not a fan due to the lack of a Picard, Riker or Worf equivalent.

To get to the point, if I hear you mention that Inception was “uninteresting”, “bland”, “derivative”, “average” or “ordinary” I will take a flight to your house and tickle you until you pee yourself and maybe, just maybe, you’ll know what it means to have joy and fun in your life once again!!

I mean.. Whatever..

In the Inception discussion I want to hear specifics. So give people who haven’t seen it some warning. That way the conversation will be easier and more interesting.

“In the Inception discussion I want to hear specifics. So give people who haven’t seen it some warning. That way the conversation will be easier and more interesting.”

I totally agree with this. There is no way to really discuss this film with out spoiling something. If you haven’t seen it go fucking see it! Its amazing! As for Reed, I think Sean came up with a pretty elegant solution. For those who want a little Farrington listen to Cantankerous. And for those who want to Hear Sean and the Gang, they can have their cake and eat it to.

Any bets to what Jay my think of it? I think he’ll give it a 4 out of 4 or latch on to some nitpick. And still give it a 3.5 or something.

Reasonable Sean being reasonable!

You should let Drew call in, and also The Het!

screw Henrik! spoil it from minute one – like a big pile of cheese curds sitting in the St. Catherine sunshine!

EST is behind GMT.

So 8pm EST is 1am for Great Britain and 2am for Central Europe.

@Fatbologna: I agree that a lot of Star Trek is bland. Take for instance the latest movie. Ha ha. I simply have different standards than everyone else.

@Kyriacos: I agreed to do another Cantankerous to appease those who wanted to hear what I had to say about “Inception.”

Well color ME surprised! I was just trying to troll ya anyway, Reed!

I thought the balance between soap opera and sci-fi were done pretty well in BSG. They pulled off some great space battles considering the budget! I also found the technobabble engaging due to the fact that they based a lot of the militaristic elements in real naval protocols giving the fake science a bit more believability when it was mixed in.