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		<title>By: Maopheus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maopheus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And by the way, Okuda writes that a whole five year mission passes between ST:TMP and ST II, even though the movies are 3 years apart. And obviously anyone can tell that the events of ST II-IV take place over a short period of time, although it&#039;s unknown how long the crew maintained their exile of Vulcan in the events leading up to ST IV, perhaps a few months?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, Okuda writes that a whole five year mission passes between ST:TMP and ST II, even though the movies are 3 years apart. And obviously anyone can tell that the events of ST II-IV take place over a short period of time, although it&#8217;s unknown how long the crew maintained their exile of Vulcan in the events leading up to ST IV, perhaps a few months?</p>
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		<title>By: Maopheus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maopheus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In answer to post 26: It depends on what you read. As with a lot of blank periods in Star Trek mythology, there have attempts to fill them in by the novels. The problem with the novels is that it is debatable how acceptable they are as canon. I did read several of the novels but grew tired of them much like the Star Wars novels. I felt that having a handful of novels that covered or expanded upon key missing periods in the mythology are good, but too many just waters it down. There was a novel that covered the period between the OS and ST:TMP. I really can&#039;t remember anything about it, it was published back in the &#039;90&#039;s I think. Another example of a good novel is &quot;Imzadi&quot; which discusses how Riker and Troi first got together. I mean stories like that are great because they have an importance. But the novels that just feel like another episode are kind of pointless. Now if you read the Michael Okuda official history of Star Trek, he says that only two years pass between the end of the series which coincides with the end of the five year mission, and the beginning of ST:TMP and presumably the beginning of the next five year mission. I always found that to be very improbable due to the greatly advanced design of the new Enterprise and the fact that 10 years pass in reality between the series and the movie. It&#039;s hard to explain the aging of the older crew members like Scotty, who looks a lot older, as happening in two years. Okuda&#039;s placing of two years by the way is based on Decker&#039;s point to Kirk that he hadn&#039;t been  Captain for almost two years or 18 months or something like that. Of course we have no idea what that last event was, whether he was referring to the original series or some other mission that occurred in between.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In answer to post 26: It depends on what you read. As with a lot of blank periods in Star Trek mythology, there have attempts to fill them in by the novels. The problem with the novels is that it is debatable how acceptable they are as canon. I did read several of the novels but grew tired of them much like the Star Wars novels. I felt that having a handful of novels that covered or expanded upon key missing periods in the mythology are good, but too many just waters it down. There was a novel that covered the period between the OS and ST:TMP. I really can&#8217;t remember anything about it, it was published back in the &#8217;90&#8217;s I think. Another example of a good novel is &#8220;Imzadi&#8221; which discusses how Riker and Troi first got together. I mean stories like that are great because they have an importance. But the novels that just feel like another episode are kind of pointless. Now if you read the Michael Okuda official history of Star Trek, he says that only two years pass between the end of the series which coincides with the end of the five year mission, and the beginning of ST:TMP and presumably the beginning of the next five year mission. I always found that to be very improbable due to the greatly advanced design of the new Enterprise and the fact that 10 years pass in reality between the series and the movie. It&#8217;s hard to explain the aging of the older crew members like Scotty, who looks a lot older, as happening in two years. Okuda&#8217;s placing of two years by the way is based on Decker&#8217;s point to Kirk that he hadn&#8217;t been  Captain for almost two years or 18 months or something like that. Of course we have no idea what that last event was, whether he was referring to the original series or some other mission that occurred in between.</p>
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		<title>By: GimmeCookies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GimmeCookies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you guys feel about the starship battles - visuals and audio?

Iâ€™m a big fan of the Nicholas Meyer battles (Khan and Undiscovered Country).  They - and the others in that series - had a nice weight to them; slow-moving, massive starships that were scalpel-precise with their phasers, and booming with the torpedoes.

I liked Abramâ€™s Star Trek battles because they were kinetic and had a more shotgun blast feel with their pyoo pyoos - I guess mainly because the Federation ships were more concerned with shooting down Neroâ€™s torpedo swarms, and the fact that his mining ship was of unknown design and so the Enterprise and Kelvin wouldnâ€™t know what areas to subtarget.

TNGâ€™s I never liked.  Absolutely no weight to the sound effects.  The phasers and torpedoes and the impacts sounded like someone brushing food crumbs off a pillow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you guys feel about the starship battles &#8211; visuals and audio?</p>
<p>Iâ€™m a big fan of the Nicholas Meyer battles (Khan and Undiscovered Country).  They &#8211; and the others in that series &#8211; had a nice weight to them; slow-moving, massive starships that were scalpel-precise with their phasers, and booming with the torpedoes.</p>
<p>I liked Abramâ€™s Star Trek battles because they were kinetic and had a more shotgun blast feel with their pyoo pyoos &#8211; I guess mainly because the Federation ships were more concerned with shooting down Neroâ€™s torpedo swarms, and the fact that his mining ship was of unknown design and so the Enterprise and Kelvin wouldnâ€™t know what areas to subtarget.</p>
<p>TNGâ€™s I never liked.  Absolutely no weight to the sound effects.  The phasers and torpedoes and the impacts sounded like someone brushing food crumbs off a pillow.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob The Slob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob The Slob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont know why #8 is a emoticon smiley face.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know why #8 is a emoticon smiley face.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob The Slob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob The Slob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[questions for reed and Jay:

1) Does it annoy either of you when they reboot/remake/reuse/recyle a movie or franchise and then everyone dismisses all it&#039;s shortcomings because its a &quot;summer movie&quot; or a &quot;popcorn movie&quot;. If it does annoy you, is it people&#039;s reactions to the terms (i.e. &quot;summer movie&quot;) or the fact that the beloved franchise should have been given better treatment then just being an &quot;entertaining ride&quot; for summer audiences. 

2) Do you agree with me that if an actor originates (in TV or FILM) a character that is based from a script alone (as in NOT from another medium like books or comics...so like James Bond, Superman, Batman) then they ARE that character. Such as Shatner IS Kirk, Nimoy IS Spock, Robert Englund IS Freddy, Kurt Russell is Snake Plisken...etc.? If so, how does that effect your view of movies like Star Trek 2009?

3) In the film it seems that Earth nor Vulcan have no homeland defenses that could easily destroy the drill head attacking their planet...why did young spock have to bother with destroying it at all, shouldn&#039;t earth&#039;s defenses have taken it out almost instantly, especially considering it was in the heart of a city right next to Starfleet? discuss.

4) Whats worse...nitpicking Star Trek 2009 to death...or people complaining about the inevitable nitpicking of Star Trek 2009 to death?

5) Uhura was hot. So they got that right, right?

6) Reed, are you annoyed as I am that we now, most likely, live in a world where young kids LOVE Star Trek, BUT will go back and watch the real Star Trek and say they are boring and the effects are bad? Also, noting how satirical it is that this is an actual complaint among Trekkies, that Star Trek doesn&#039;t belong to them anymore and will be replaced in the minds of the young, is it not a valid grievance even to the slightest degree? It is ok to be bitter and old?

7) I realize they couldn&#039;t beam young spock to the room with his parents in it...but couldnt they beam him closer...he had to like climb a mountain to get to them. 

8) What is a better spoof of Star Trek...Galaxy Quest or Star Trek 2009?

9) Several upon several complaints have been made, including by Reed, about Spock abandoning Kirk on the lethal ice planet...do you think this is because it was a monumentally stupid plot device or because it was a monumentally stupid plot device? Yes...that question is a tad bias.

10) The Green Girl...would you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>questions for reed and Jay:</p>
<p>1) Does it annoy either of you when they reboot/remake/reuse/recyle a movie or franchise and then everyone dismisses all it&#8217;s shortcomings because its a &#8220;summer movie&#8221; or a &#8220;popcorn movie&#8221;. If it does annoy you, is it people&#8217;s reactions to the terms (i.e. &#8220;summer movie&#8221;) or the fact that the beloved franchise should have been given better treatment then just being an &#8220;entertaining ride&#8221; for summer audiences. </p>
<p>2) Do you agree with me that if an actor originates (in TV or FILM) a character that is based from a script alone (as in NOT from another medium like books or comics&#8230;so like James Bond, Superman, Batman) then they ARE that character. Such as Shatner IS Kirk, Nimoy IS Spock, Robert Englund IS Freddy, Kurt Russell is Snake Plisken&#8230;etc.? If so, how does that effect your view of movies like Star Trek 2009?</p>
<p>3) In the film it seems that Earth nor Vulcan have no homeland defenses that could easily destroy the drill head attacking their planet&#8230;why did young spock have to bother with destroying it at all, shouldn&#8217;t earth&#8217;s defenses have taken it out almost instantly, especially considering it was in the heart of a city right next to Starfleet? discuss.</p>
<p>4) Whats worse&#8230;nitpicking Star Trek 2009 to death&#8230;or people complaining about the inevitable nitpicking of Star Trek 2009 to death?</p>
<p>5) Uhura was hot. So they got that right, right?</p>
<p>6) Reed, are you annoyed as I am that we now, most likely, live in a world where young kids LOVE Star Trek, BUT will go back and watch the real Star Trek and say they are boring and the effects are bad? Also, noting how satirical it is that this is an actual complaint among Trekkies, that Star Trek doesn&#8217;t belong to them anymore and will be replaced in the minds of the young, is it not a valid grievance even to the slightest degree? It is ok to be bitter and old?</p>
<p>7) I realize they couldn&#8217;t beam young spock to the room with his parents in it&#8230;but couldnt they beam him closer&#8230;he had to like climb a mountain to get to them. </p>
<p>8) What is a better spoof of Star Trek&#8230;Galaxy Quest or Star Trek 2009?</p>
<p>9) Several upon several complaints have been made, including by Reed, about Spock abandoning Kirk on the lethal ice planet&#8230;do you think this is because it was a monumentally stupid plot device or because it was a monumentally stupid plot device? Yes&#8230;that question is a tad bias.</p>
<p>10) The Green Girl&#8230;would you?</p>
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		<title>By: GimmeCookies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GimmeCookies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sean - &quot;do you think a few years from now this movie will be regarded on the same level as The Phantom Menace?&quot;

Iâ€™d be curious about that.  For me the last good Star Trek movie was The Undiscovered Country, though people seemed to dig First Contact.  I was only old enough to catch Return of the Jedi on laserdisc, and I never saw any TNG movies in theatres.  I kinda feel the theatre experience is a big part of it.  I guess it would all depend on how the reboot sequels do.

But then again, I can see myself re-watching Star Trek whereas even though I like the Star Wars movies, you would have to force me to re-watch The Phantom Menace.  

Comparing TPM and Abramâ€™s Star Trek, the latter has better performances, and on the strength of the Kelvin scene and much too brief Enterprise pyoo pyoo pyoo moments, has better action.  Yes, Jedi battles are the stuff of awesome, but for me, they can be a bit tiring mainly cuz itâ€™s a lot of martial arts flash; I find the starship battles in Star Trek much more engaging because itâ€™s between two colossal objects that have to either present themselves from an angle that makes them smaller to deflect glancing blows or stick out their entire body to take the entire shot.  I love broadsides.  And sides of broads.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean &#8211; &#8220;do you think a few years from now this movie will be regarded on the same level as The Phantom Menace?&#8221;</p>
<p>Iâ€™d be curious about that.  For me the last good Star Trek movie was The Undiscovered Country, though people seemed to dig First Contact.  I was only old enough to catch Return of the Jedi on laserdisc, and I never saw any TNG movies in theatres.  I kinda feel the theatre experience is a big part of it.  I guess it would all depend on how the reboot sequels do.</p>
<p>But then again, I can see myself re-watching Star Trek whereas even though I like the Star Wars movies, you would have to force me to re-watch The Phantom Menace.  </p>
<p>Comparing TPM and Abramâ€™s Star Trek, the latter has better performances, and on the strength of the Kelvin scene and much too brief Enterprise pyoo pyoo pyoo moments, has better action.  Yes, Jedi battles are the stuff of awesome, but for me, they can be a bit tiring mainly cuz itâ€™s a lot of martial arts flash; I find the starship battles in Star Trek much more engaging because itâ€™s between two colossal objects that have to either present themselves from an angle that makes them smaller to deflect glancing blows or stick out their entire body to take the entire shot.  I love broadsides.  And sides of broads.</p>
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		<title>By: rus in chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rus in chicago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Star Trek not Justin is &quot;Bringing sexy back&quot;    ....take&#039;em to the Star Trek bridge!

&quot;Dirty babe
You see these shackles
Baby I&#039;m your slave....&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Trek not Justin is &#8220;Bringing sexy back&#8221;    &#8230;.take&#8217;em to the Star Trek bridge!</p>
<p>&#8220;Dirty babe<br />
You see these shackles<br />
Baby I&#8217;m your slave&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rus in chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rus in chicago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nate - &quot;Why did I (and everyone else in the world) not give the same free pass to Indy 4 last year? Whatâ€™s the difference?&quot;

Very good point...is it the young and sexy aspect of this nostalgic romp?  I think so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate &#8211; &#8220;Why did I (and everyone else in the world) not give the same free pass to Indy 4 last year? Whatâ€™s the difference?&#8221;</p>
<p>Very good point&#8230;is it the young and sexy aspect of this nostalgic romp?  I think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Goon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Are people going to complain about the inconsistencies of the Transformers plot or Bayâ€™s aesthetic choices to this extent, no for some reason they think itâ€™s cool when robots kick the shit out of each other and are able to let that shit slide&quot;

I wont because I wont see Transformers 2.  I thought the first one was the worst blockbuster of the last 10 years.  But no, Star Trek is not getting some unfair treatment from me relative to that movie, thats for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are people going to complain about the inconsistencies of the Transformers plot or Bayâ€™s aesthetic choices to this extent, no for some reason they think itâ€™s cool when robots kick the shit out of each other and are able to let that shit slide&#8221;</p>
<p>I wont because I wont see Transformers 2.  I thought the first one was the worst blockbuster of the last 10 years.  But no, Star Trek is not getting some unfair treatment from me relative to that movie, thats for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: blackmothra</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[general star trek question

what happened to captain kirk and the rest of the crew between the end of TOS and star trek: the motion picture?
im only 6 episodes into TOS
but i cheated and watched (most of) the movie, and i am very confused.
so i decided to wait until i can understand before starting in with the movies, maybe you can help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>general star trek question</p>
<p>what happened to captain kirk and the rest of the crew between the end of TOS and star trek: the motion picture?<br />
im only 6 episodes into TOS<br />
but i cheated and watched (most of) the movie, and i am very confused.<br />
so i decided to wait until i can understand before starting in with the movies, maybe you can help.</p>
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		<title>By: Kasper F. Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kasper F. Nielsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 10:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lee hit it on the spot, I totally agree :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee hit it on the spot, I totally agree <img src="https://filmjunk.com/cms/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 09:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I canâ€™t believe people are nit picking a summer movie that is somewhat intelligent and entertaining. We have just had the turd that was Wolverine and have Transformers and a whole slew of garbage that will have nothing close to the humour and spirit of this Star Trek. 

Are people going to complain about the inconsistencies of the Transformers plot or Bay&#039;s aesthetic choices to this extent, no for some reason they think it&#039;s cool when robots kick the shit out of each other and are able to let that shit slide. This was a solid summer movie that felt more like an introduction/reset to the characters and world

I donâ€™t think it was a perfect movie by any means; there are story structure problems and a bland Bana. I&#039;m not a fan of that particular universe (The Voyage Home is a fun movie though) so I do have a distance from previous entries but what do people want, the franchise was dead!  Trekkers should rejoice that a continuation of that world exists at all, they should be happy they are getting anything close to this quality in this age of Hollywood. Mabye they should look at the state of other franchises before they cry rape.

I also didn&#039;t mind the lens flares one bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I canâ€™t believe people are nit picking a summer movie that is somewhat intelligent and entertaining. We have just had the turd that was Wolverine and have Transformers and a whole slew of garbage that will have nothing close to the humour and spirit of this Star Trek. </p>
<p>Are people going to complain about the inconsistencies of the Transformers plot or Bay&#8217;s aesthetic choices to this extent, no for some reason they think it&#8217;s cool when robots kick the shit out of each other and are able to let that shit slide. This was a solid summer movie that felt more like an introduction/reset to the characters and world</p>
<p>I donâ€™t think it was a perfect movie by any means; there are story structure problems and a bland Bana. I&#8217;m not a fan of that particular universe (The Voyage Home is a fun movie though) so I do have a distance from previous entries but what do people want, the franchise was dead!  Trekkers should rejoice that a continuation of that world exists at all, they should be happy they are getting anything close to this quality in this age of Hollywood. Mabye they should look at the state of other franchises before they cry rape.</p>
<p>I also didn&#8217;t mind the lens flares one bit.</p>
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