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	<title>Comments on: Film Junk Podcast Episode #169: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull</title>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should make a podcast that only covers Jay&#039;s best moments, it would have all his screaming singing and weird sounds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should make a podcast that only covers Jay&#8217;s best moments, it would have all his screaming singing and weird sounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Connery doesn&#039;t die because they actually pour the water from the chalice directly on the would and it immediately heals up.  Greg is right about it being only eternal life if they choose to stay in the tomb (or whatever it&#039;s called).

And the biggest problem with Skull (of many) is that there are no stakes for the final act.  Nothing to be concerned about.  The whole final act is pointless.  Does it really matter if the ship flies away or stays buried?  Nope.  No one&#039;s life (or all of humanity in the case of the first three movies) is at stake.  Give Blanchet her damn skull and go home.  Who gives a shit!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connery doesn&#8217;t die because they actually pour the water from the chalice directly on the would and it immediately heals up.  Greg is right about it being only eternal life if they choose to stay in the tomb (or whatever it&#8217;s called).</p>
<p>And the biggest problem with Skull (of many) is that there are no stakes for the final act.  Nothing to be concerned about.  The whole final act is pointless.  Does it really matter if the ship flies away or stays buried?  Nope.  No one&#8217;s life (or all of humanity in the case of the first three movies) is at stake.  Give Blanchet her damn skull and go home.  Who gives a shit!?</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henrik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and I own Starman as well. The commentary with John Carpenter and Jeff Bridges is classic stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and I own Starman as well. The commentary with John Carpenter and Jeff Bridges is classic stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henrik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The way you say &#039;Amburgeur does sound like you&#039;ve pronounced one or two french words in your day!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way you say &#8216;Amburgeur does sound like you&#8217;ve pronounced one or two french words in your day!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure I could wow you with my hazy memory of high school french.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure I could wow you with my hazy memory of high school french.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henrik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the ultimate would be some sort of special podcast starring Jay and Sean as frenchies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ultimate would be some sort of special podcast starring Jay and Sean as frenchies.</p>
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		<title>By: Swarez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Swarez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair GTA is not made for children even though they do play it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair GTA is not made for children even though they do play it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay C.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A big part of the film being lighter than the ones before it is because of the stupid ass PC movement that has castrated and dumbed down kids movies these days.&quot;

swarez,

You seem to be forgetting one very important element of today&#039;s youth. Video games. 

Sure their movies may have been toned down, but I submit that Grand Theft Auto 4 would not have been acceptable in the eighties. They may not have a shaman pulling out a human heart in the movies, but they&#039;ve certainly made up for it by being able to kill a cop and run over hookers in photo realistic graphics. (Think of the controversy when Mortal Kombat was released)

I think kids are getting most of their entertainment from their XBox nowadays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A big part of the film being lighter than the ones before it is because of the stupid ass PC movement that has castrated and dumbed down kids movies these days.&#8221;</p>
<p>swarez,</p>
<p>You seem to be forgetting one very important element of today&#8217;s youth. Video games. </p>
<p>Sure their movies may have been toned down, but I submit that Grand Theft Auto 4 would not have been acceptable in the eighties. They may not have a shaman pulling out a human heart in the movies, but they&#8217;ve certainly made up for it by being able to kill a cop and run over hookers in photo realistic graphics. (Think of the controversy when Mortal Kombat was released)</p>
<p>I think kids are getting most of their entertainment from their XBox nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: swarez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[swarez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A big part of the film being lighter than the ones before it is because of the stupid ass PC movement that has castrated and dumbed down kids movies these days. Why is it forbidden to see some sort of dark material in kids movies these days, without involving fantasy animals or magic? Take The Goonies, The Monster Squad and Raiders. All of those films are family adventure films but they don&#039;t talk down to their audience. 
It&#039;s the fear of rampaging parents who&#039;d rather blame someone else for their kids behavior instead of doing their job themselves. 

Have the 80&#039;s produced some massive number of mass murderers or drug addicts because of those family films? Cause I can&#039;t understand why the things those films showed back then are bad now.
Remember that Jaws is a G rated movie, something it would never be today. It&#039;s also a film Spielberg would never do today because of its graphic nature and there are kids who get eaten in it. 
Bah! Grow a pair Spielberg and keep your kids out of the movies you make.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big part of the film being lighter than the ones before it is because of the stupid ass PC movement that has castrated and dumbed down kids movies these days. Why is it forbidden to see some sort of dark material in kids movies these days, without involving fantasy animals or magic? Take The Goonies, The Monster Squad and Raiders. All of those films are family adventure films but they don&#8217;t talk down to their audience.<br />
It&#8217;s the fear of rampaging parents who&#8217;d rather blame someone else for their kids behavior instead of doing their job themselves. </p>
<p>Have the 80&#8217;s produced some massive number of mass murderers or drug addicts because of those family films? Cause I can&#8217;t understand why the things those films showed back then are bad now.<br />
Remember that Jaws is a G rated movie, something it would never be today. It&#8217;s also a film Spielberg would never do today because of its graphic nature and there are kids who get eaten in it.<br />
Bah! Grow a pair Spielberg and keep your kids out of the movies you make.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jay

I only go by what was done in the original 3 movies, which for me have aged remakably well.  I see the &#039;kid&#039; elements in all three films, but let me give you a few examples of why the original 3 indy films were dark and why Skull pulls all the punches.

The original films actually expected a lot of maturity from young kids when watching the films, The Mummy, National Treasure and Skull all dope things down to the lowest common denominator.  Yes Pulp is supposed to be lowest common demoniator, but in 1981 Spielberg &amp; Lucas actually brought pulp up to art.  yes Art.

Raiders - Indy drinking &#039;hard&#039; when Marion dies.  There are two quite graphic head-shots in the Nepal bar, and while the melting sequence is obviously fake, it is bloody and creepy.  Furthermore, when Alfred Molina bites it, it&#039;s pretty visious, as is the dead tracker brought in by the natives, as is the offscreen death of the big German mechanic.  The film is quite bloody actually.

Doom- Heart Ripping, in a kids film.  Oi!  also the blood of death drinking, the beating up of kids, etc.  Pat Roach (here big Indian Goon) getting killed by the grinding wheel is bloody without being over-the-top graphic.  Also think of how creepy the guy being hung on the fan with the whip is in the middle part of Doom.  Also the alligators, etc.

Crusade - Even as you can see Spielberg backing off with this one, making it more or less bloodless, you certainly see the pretty graphic results of a guy with his head chopped off.

When I complain about how cuddly Skull is, it is because I&#039;m going by the rules set the by original three films.  I don&#039;t think Spielberg or Lucas are backing off from the gore as a challenge or original thought (and if they did, they failed the challenge insofar as the stakes in Skull seem fuzzy), in this genre territory, both of them just have nowhere else to go as artists.

I don&#039;t think Skull &#039;soils the bed&#039; in the same way that Lucas did with Star Wars (and my main gripe there is the actually constant revisionism of the Original Trilogy to make it &#039;look newer and CGI Filled&#039; and changing key story points and character tone, etc. etc. 

Skull for me will simply be ignored as a Jones adventure.  

The LAST CRUSADE had the characters RIDE OFF INTO THE SUNSET, that&#039;s pretty final for me.

Same with Alien series.  I love the first 3.  All of them are equally good in my opinion.  But they definitively killed Ripley in 3.  And I pretend the 4th one doesn&#039;t exist, same for the vs. movies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jay</p>
<p>I only go by what was done in the original 3 movies, which for me have aged remakably well.  I see the &#8216;kid&#8217; elements in all three films, but let me give you a few examples of why the original 3 indy films were dark and why Skull pulls all the punches.</p>
<p>The original films actually expected a lot of maturity from young kids when watching the films, The Mummy, National Treasure and Skull all dope things down to the lowest common denominator.  Yes Pulp is supposed to be lowest common demoniator, but in 1981 Spielberg &amp; Lucas actually brought pulp up to art.  yes Art.</p>
<p>Raiders &#8211; Indy drinking &#8216;hard&#8217; when Marion dies.  There are two quite graphic head-shots in the Nepal bar, and while the melting sequence is obviously fake, it is bloody and creepy.  Furthermore, when Alfred Molina bites it, it&#8217;s pretty visious, as is the dead tracker brought in by the natives, as is the offscreen death of the big German mechanic.  The film is quite bloody actually.</p>
<p>Doom- Heart Ripping, in a kids film.  Oi!  also the blood of death drinking, the beating up of kids, etc.  Pat Roach (here big Indian Goon) getting killed by the grinding wheel is bloody without being over-the-top graphic.  Also think of how creepy the guy being hung on the fan with the whip is in the middle part of Doom.  Also the alligators, etc.</p>
<p>Crusade &#8211; Even as you can see Spielberg backing off with this one, making it more or less bloodless, you certainly see the pretty graphic results of a guy with his head chopped off.</p>
<p>When I complain about how cuddly Skull is, it is because I&#8217;m going by the rules set the by original three films.  I don&#8217;t think Spielberg or Lucas are backing off from the gore as a challenge or original thought (and if they did, they failed the challenge insofar as the stakes in Skull seem fuzzy), in this genre territory, both of them just have nowhere else to go as artists.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Skull &#8216;soils the bed&#8217; in the same way that Lucas did with Star Wars (and my main gripe there is the actually constant revisionism of the Original Trilogy to make it &#8216;look newer and CGI Filled&#8217; and changing key story points and character tone, etc. etc. </p>
<p>Skull for me will simply be ignored as a Jones adventure.  </p>
<p>The LAST CRUSADE had the characters RIDE OFF INTO THE SUNSET, that&#8217;s pretty final for me.</p>
<p>Same with Alien series.  I love the first 3.  All of them are equally good in my opinion.  But they definitively killed Ripley in 3.  And I pretend the 4th one doesn&#8217;t exist, same for the vs. movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob the Slob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob the Slob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 15:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jay c., I dont completely disagree with you...I&#039;m just getting old, and I really dont much care for CGI anymore...as for the original indy movies being just nostalgia...Im going to be 30 soon, and I still watch all 3 on a regular basis and listen to the respective film scores all the time as well...all 3 indy movies have stood the complete test of time for me, right up untill the day before crystal skull was released...I wasnt remembering how much I liked indy in my youth...I was remembering how much I&#039;ve LIKED indy for the past 20-some years consistently. Eh...at least they didnt make &quot;special editions&quot;...if you want to get real geeky about things, I think it&#039;s safe to say that Star Wars fans got it a major-uber-fucking-hell of a lot worse. At least crystal skull is 20 years removed from crusade...which if it does soil a bed, its a different mattress at this point all together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jay c., I dont completely disagree with you&#8230;I&#8217;m just getting old, and I really dont much care for CGI anymore&#8230;as for the original indy movies being just nostalgia&#8230;Im going to be 30 soon, and I still watch all 3 on a regular basis and listen to the respective film scores all the time as well&#8230;all 3 indy movies have stood the complete test of time for me, right up untill the day before crystal skull was released&#8230;I wasnt remembering how much I liked indy in my youth&#8230;I was remembering how much I&#8217;ve LIKED indy for the past 20-some years consistently. Eh&#8230;at least they didnt make &#8220;special editions&#8221;&#8230;if you want to get real geeky about things, I think it&#8217;s safe to say that Star Wars fans got it a major-uber-fucking-hell of a lot worse. At least crystal skull is 20 years removed from crusade&#8230;which if it does soil a bed, its a different mattress at this point all together.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 15:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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