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		<title>By: Thomas Lewis</title>
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		<title>By: albelamail</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[albelamail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Max payne is a movie I waited so long to see. wow it was done in superior way. Always love to see my game hero in action. Mark Wahlberg is just like the payne in the movie. This was out standing performance by him. Fire power and the shooting skills of the game have been imitated well. Though I have watch it online by using http://www.80millionmoviesfree.com had the feel of a life time with this remarkable movie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max payne is a movie I waited so long to see. wow it was done in superior way. Always love to see my game hero in action. Mark Wahlberg is just like the payne in the movie. This was out standing performance by him. Fire power and the shooting skills of the game have been imitated well. Though I have watch it online by using <a href="http://www.80millionmoviesfree.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.80millionmoviesfree.com</a> had the feel of a life time with this remarkable movie.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 15:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marketing is dumb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty James</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rusty James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 04:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hmm. but I don&#039;t think anyone is saying CGI hurts the script. I think people complain about CGI because often times cgi action scenes are unengaging.

In particular CGI characters in action scenes aren&#039;t as exciting as action scenes with stuntmen. Think about the Spider-Man 3 finale vs Zoey Bell on the hood of the car in Death Proof.

Raiders of the Lost Ark vs Crystal Skull would be a better example but I haven&#039;t seen Crystal Skull.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm. but I don&#8217;t think anyone is saying CGI hurts the script. I think people complain about CGI because often times cgi action scenes are unengaging.</p>
<p>In particular CGI characters in action scenes aren&#8217;t as exciting as action scenes with stuntmen. Think about the Spider-Man 3 finale vs Zoey Bell on the hood of the car in Death Proof.</p>
<p>Raiders of the Lost Ark vs Crystal Skull would be a better example but I haven&#8217;t seen Crystal Skull.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain N</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Captain N]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 04:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe hype is filmgoer created, so to speak.  The studios put the marketing out there and we begin the measure of expectations from what we see.

Expectations are different with every person, as stated above.  Whats more is with certain films, people are willing to over look its flaws and allow its good traits to be more apparent.  Spiderman 3 and Transformers come to mind.  Both are terrible terrible films.  Both have their haters and lovers.

As for the debate about CGI ruining movies, that&#039;d be a great topic, if it hasnt been used yet and I&#039;d like to put in my two cents.  I strongly believe that CGI is not ruining film.  Not even an over abundance.  CGI has nothing to do with the script.  A bad script is a bad script.  I dont feel CGI is dictating the way a script is written anymore now then the way a particular effect would dictate something from the 80&#039;s or 70&#039;s or so on.  Its a tool, a fantastic tool, that allows filmmakers to create worlds unlike before.  I&#039;ll end it there, its a bit off topic :-P.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe hype is filmgoer created, so to speak.  The studios put the marketing out there and we begin the measure of expectations from what we see.</p>
<p>Expectations are different with every person, as stated above.  Whats more is with certain films, people are willing to over look its flaws and allow its good traits to be more apparent.  Spiderman 3 and Transformers come to mind.  Both are terrible terrible films.  Both have their haters and lovers.</p>
<p>As for the debate about CGI ruining movies, that&#8217;d be a great topic, if it hasnt been used yet and I&#8217;d like to put in my two cents.  I strongly believe that CGI is not ruining film.  Not even an over abundance.  CGI has nothing to do with the script.  A bad script is a bad script.  I dont feel CGI is dictating the way a script is written anymore now then the way a particular effect would dictate something from the 80&#8217;s or 70&#8217;s or so on.  Its a tool, a fantastic tool, that allows filmmakers to create worlds unlike before.  I&#8217;ll end it there, its a bit off topic :-P.</p>
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		<title>By: Rian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course hype has a lot to do with it, but there&#039;s also the difference in opinions from person to person.

I personally really liked Spiderman, Spiderman 2, and Spiderman 3.  I believe all of those were greatly hyped up.  There are plenty of other examples.  X-Men 3 and Transformers on the other hand were hyped up a lot and I just thought they were horrible films.

In my opinion it&#039;s really a case by case basis as to whether something will perform well depending on the hype, the subject matter, and the quality of the film itself, along with several other factors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course hype has a lot to do with it, but there&#8217;s also the difference in opinions from person to person.</p>
<p>I personally really liked Spiderman, Spiderman 2, and Spiderman 3.  I believe all of those were greatly hyped up.  There are plenty of other examples.  X-Men 3 and Transformers on the other hand were hyped up a lot and I just thought they were horrible films.</p>
<p>In my opinion it&#8217;s really a case by case basis as to whether something will perform well depending on the hype, the subject matter, and the quality of the film itself, along with several other factors.</p>
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		<title>By: Baychuk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baychuk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find dry ice smoke effects more frightening than CG ghosts or silly (unrealistic) monsters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find dry ice smoke effects more frightening than CG ghosts or silly (unrealistic) monsters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Rocks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Rocks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CG is good in small doses. Most movies simply overdose. As far as horror-- that&#039;s a whole different story. Digital blood is the worst thing to happen to horror in years. It just looks awful. I respect a film more when it uses practical effects-- I know when something is fake, and I&#039;d rather have it be a practical fake effect than a digital one.

And for Spiderman 3, part of what ruined it for me was hearing that the budget was upward of $350 million. Adding money to a subpar project does nothing to help it-- it&#039;s just a really expensive turd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CG is good in small doses. Most movies simply overdose. As far as horror&#8211; that&#8217;s a whole different story. Digital blood is the worst thing to happen to horror in years. It just looks awful. I respect a film more when it uses practical effects&#8211; I know when something is fake, and I&#8217;d rather have it be a practical fake effect than a digital one.</p>
<p>And for Spiderman 3, part of what ruined it for me was hearing that the budget was upward of $350 million. Adding money to a subpar project does nothing to help it&#8211; it&#8217;s just a really expensive turd.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 11:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think the hype machine was responsible for the critical failure of Spider-man 3. It was entirely based on the expectations built after Spider-man 2. I believe that was the best comic book movie of all time, and most faithful to the subject matter. To me it was perfect entertainment. It doesn&#039;t have the artistic integrity and emotional impact of The Godfather, but it was much more entertaining than that film. You can&#039;t watch The Godfather as many times in a year as you can Spider-man 2. If you say you can it&#039;s hard for me to believe you.

Even more, I like CG. As a pro hopeful filmmaker myself it makes me happy that some of my ideas could be realized with as much realism as possible. I want to see things I could never see in real life on film (or preferably HD) and CG is the harbinger of that dream. I just think 90% of directors have no visual style so they end up shitting all over everything and making close-up shots w/o practical effects and other things that are easily on the &quot;what NOT to do with CG&quot; list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the hype machine was responsible for the critical failure of Spider-man 3. It was entirely based on the expectations built after Spider-man 2. I believe that was the best comic book movie of all time, and most faithful to the subject matter. To me it was perfect entertainment. It doesn&#8217;t have the artistic integrity and emotional impact of The Godfather, but it was much more entertaining than that film. You can&#8217;t watch The Godfather as many times in a year as you can Spider-man 2. If you say you can it&#8217;s hard for me to believe you.</p>
<p>Even more, I like CG. As a pro hopeful filmmaker myself it makes me happy that some of my ideas could be realized with as much realism as possible. I want to see things I could never see in real life on film (or preferably HD) and CG is the harbinger of that dream. I just think 90% of directors have no visual style so they end up shitting all over everything and making close-up shots w/o practical effects and other things that are easily on the &#8220;what NOT to do with CG&#8221; list.</p>
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		<title>By: Baychuk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baychuk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 10:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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I just wish everything wasnt a CGI shit festÃ¢â‚¬Â¦big movies have no integrity anymore. fucking computers.
Posted by Bob the Slob on May 24th, 2008 
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I agree. This especially applies to so-called horror movies especially.

As for hype on movies....I dunno the last hyped up movie I liked was &quot;The Blair Witch Project&quot;, which had least added some mystery to the story before the film came out. I thought that was very clever.]]></description>
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I just wish everything wasnt a CGI shit festÃ¢â‚¬Â¦big movies have no integrity anymore. fucking computers.<br />
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<p>I agree. This especially applies to so-called horror movies especially.</p>
<p>As for hype on movies&#8230;.I dunno the last hyped up movie I liked was &#8220;The Blair Witch Project&#8221;, which had least added some mystery to the story before the film came out. I thought that was very clever.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob the Slob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob the Slob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 07:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, now see if you can stay with me on this...Iron Man was great, only because it was good, when it could have been really bad...our expectations are so lowered these days that anything that isnt embarassing is a pure relief.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, now see if you can stay with me on this&#8230;Iron Man was great, only because it was good, when it could have been really bad&#8230;our expectations are so lowered these days that anything that isnt embarassing is a pure relief.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob the Slob</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 07:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wish everything wasnt a CGI shit fest...big movies have no integrity anymore. fucking computers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wish everything wasnt a CGI shit fest&#8230;big movies have no integrity anymore. fucking computers.</p>
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