Download Film Junk Podcast for Sept. 3, 2007

Strap yourself in for another jam packed episode of the Film Junk Podcast. This week we review Rob Zombie’s Halloween and Balls of Fury, pick a winner between Freddy vs Jason vs Michael Myers, and count down our Top 5 most anticipated movies of the fall season. Greg also gives a preview of the Toronto Film Festival and stands up for Bon Cop Bad Cop during the Film Junk Defense Force segment. We also take some time to discuss the idea of self-indulgent filmmaking, and announce the winner for the Mysterians DVD contest! Can you handle another two full hours of Film Junk? It’s time to put your mind and your soul to the ultimate test. Download this week’s podcast below.

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  • The two hour shows, as I’ve said previously, are great. Don’t feel like you have to make them this long, but if it happens naturally as with tonight’s show, I’m all for it. Oh, and contests are cool, too, of course.

  • How dare you run so long! Talk about self-indulgence!

    Another awesome show. The FJFDF is quickly becoming a favorite. Really good stuff, and it seems to me that Mr. Gaspari is coming more into his own in the movie debates as well as providing the self-referential humor about how nerdy the show can be. Good stuff.

    I’m kind of offended that you said me bringing up Kubrick was ridiculous, especially since you yourself brought him up comparing him to somebody showing vacation slides. So you agree that I am right when bringing him up as an example of self-indulgence that works.

  • Henrik:

    I don’t think the fact that you brought Kubrick up is ridiculous. However, I do think it would be ridiculous to suggest that Rob Zombie has the talent or even the right to be self indulgent on the level of Kubrick. Not sure if that’s what you were suggesting or not.

  • No I was saying that in theory it is the same thing, hence not agreeing with the argument that I got from your comments, that self-indulgence is a bad thing.

  • Jed

    Do you guys actually consider yourselves knowledgeable about film, or just the most recent B-rated movies? Sounded like a decent podcast until I heard you haven’t seen The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. How could you not have seen that famous a movie? I suppose its a fair show for film enthusiasts and those that enjoy cheap thrill movies and hollywood drama, but for the film geek, or the college educated film major, find a different show.

  • Goon

    Jed, I’m sure there’s a long list of famous films you haven’t seen.

    Jay is the only person I know who has more DVDs than I do, and has gone through film school. I listen to a lot of general film podcasts and could only name a few people on those shows that has seen more movies or has as varied a taste/open mind as Jay. And in THOSE cases, those hosts are 5-20 years older than Jay.

  • Goon

    (i’ll point out though, that you can watch the movie in full on google video:

    http://tv-links.co.uk/video/4/2599/3803/50225/73302)

  • Goon
  • Hey Jed,

    Thanks for listening to the show. I found your comment…interesting.

    I’ve yet to meet someone who’s seen every film ever made, or even every IMPORTANT film ever made for that matter. Could you be the first? Do you consider yourself knowledgable about film? I guess your comment would suggest that you do. Who says modesty is a good thing?

    I’ve always hated falling back on the subjectivity of film when talking movies. It takes the fun out of everything. But I assure you that although you personally consider The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari required viewing for those who deserve to be included in the illustrious category of ‘film geek’ or ‘college educated film major’, there’s a number of films I might consider major works that you may not have not seen. And you know what? That’s fine by me.

    Your comment about ‘college educated film majors’ leads me to believe that you yourself are a ‘college educated film major’. As someone who is ALSO a ‘college educated film major’, I couldn’t help but chuckle. It was my experience that there are three types of ‘college educated film majors’.

    1. Those who have no idea what they want to do with their lives and figure watching/making movies will be fun. They don’t really take it seriously, but maybe in the end they’ll accidentally find their calling.

    2. Those who genuinely love film and live to spend the rest of their lives watching, making, or critiquing film.

    and finally,

    3. Those who think they’re better than everyone else at everything. Nobody truly understands their work. The instructors don’t understand their vision. They sneak into the editing rooms at night to change all of the work their editors did through the day because they’re ruining their vision. They’ll never sell out. They’ll never make a Hollywood film. When talking about the ‘classics’, they repeat things they’ve heard their profs say. They saw all of the classics for the first time in film school. (and probably wouldn’t have seen them otherwise)

    Now based on your single comment, i’d probably put you in group 3. However, i’m sure you’d place yourself in group 2. I could be totally wrong as I don’t know you and i’ve only read your one comment. It would be totally unfair. However, you didn’t hesitate to judge us based on one show in which we collectively didn’t see one movie that you really enjoy.

    Maybe this isn’t the podcast for you.

    For the record, normally I wouldn’t bother with such a long response, but it’s been suggested that personal responses to comments is a good thing, so why not start with Jed.

    P.S. You’ve lost me on the ‘just the most recent B-rated movies’ and ‘cheap thrill movies’.

  • The Man With No Name

    Jed, I hope you’ve come back to read replies to the comment you posted. Jay took the bait.

    Don’t take Jay’s comments too much to heart. He’s a sensitive soul and tends to get self-defensive about his ignorance.

    Can you believe that his college never made “Citizen Kane” required viewing? And he’s never seen “Seven Samurai”! (But he owns the DVD. Snicker.)

    Don’t worry. I’m slowly educating him. I betcha he hasn’t even seen Truffaut’s “The 400 Blows”!

  • Goon

    “Can you believe that his college never made “Citizen Kane” required viewing?”

    thats because Citizen Kane was required viewing in Ontario’s OAC English classes :P

    lets see, in high school we were also saw One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, the Graduate, M, the French Connection, and unofficially we saw Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, Streetcar Named Desire, Great Gatsby, and Zefferelli’s Romeo and Juliet…

  • Primal

    I am currently a college film student and I did watch The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari in one of my film classes. Even though there are elements in the movie that your suppose to respect and give praise on technical and storytelling aspects, I wasn’t all too impressed with the film.

    Just because they were the first ones to do certain things and help advance the art of filmmaking doesn’t mean it is essential viewing at all. We live in a time where many other auteurs have upped the ante and have done it much better and are easier to appreciate. They are our influences.

    I am not saying all these classics aren’t essential viewing, but in this case, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari isn’t a memorable for me at least. Giving it a criterion collection release would at least show that it would be important on some level, right? But there isnt even one as far as I know.

  • To ‘The Man With No Name':

    I’m sure Jed wouldn’t approve of your thoughts on 70’s cinema.

    I won’t judge you though. I’ve accepted the fact that you think Ultraviolet is a better film than Vernon, Florida.

  • The Man With No Name

    Goon, Ontario’s education system has required movies to be shown in high school English classes? I had to read books in English class. And yeah, Citizen Kane was around when I was in high school. And yeah, I know you read books in English class, too. Well, I don’t really know, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

    Primal, I was wondering which filmmaking auteurs are your influences? Tarantino? Rodriguez? Kevin Smith? Raimi? Wachowski Brother and Sister? I think these filmmakers are well-versed with the classics although I agree somewhat with your sentiment that nothing is really essential viewing. But I think these auteurs would disagree with us.

  • Primal

    Hey TMWNN, there are quite a few directors I look up to. In no particular ranking…Scorsese, Tarantino, Verhoeven, Herzog, P.T. Anderson, Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Sergio Leone, Luc Besson, Kubrick, David Lynch, De Palma, John Carpenter, Spielberg, Tim Burton, Ridley&Tony Scott, Francis Ford Coppola, Coen Bros., and Cronenberg.

    Well that would be 1st 20 or so directors that I absolutely love. I’d say from that list, only Kurosawa is the only director that has become a favorite since studying cinema.

    Since I started visiting Filmjunk.com earlier this year, Jay introduced me to Herzog and has become a great influence.

  • TheSnowLeopard

    This comments page is the same as the previous podcast. Plus the description of the podcast content at the top of the page is for last week’s show?????

    I think the quote you were thinking of at the end of this show was…

    “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend” from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

  • Hey TheSnowLeopard:

    Regarding the comments, I think that might be my fault. I may have missed a step when posting the podcast. Normally Sean does that, so i’ll have to double check it tonight.

    Thanks for the heads up though.

  • The Man With No Name

    The quote you mention, TheSnowLeopard, is the one I quoted and I believe I did mention on the podcast that I got it from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

    I think I had actually heard or read the quote a week before, and I had watched The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance a day or two before the podcast and was surprised to hear that quote again.

    Anyway, I still don’t know what it means and if that quote had originated with the movie or is some old publishing quote.

  • TheSnowLeopard

    So you did. My apologies. I must have mixed up your confusion over the meaning of the quote with a confusion over the source of the quote.

    It basically means that sometimes people prefer a lie to the truth because the lie makes them feel better.