Film Junk Podcast Episode #662: Solo: A Star Wars Story

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0:00 – Intro: Dax’s Vacation, Reed’s Pretty Woman Dilemma, Roseanne Cancelled
35:15 – Review: Solo: A Star Wars Story
1:44:45 – Other Stuff We Watched: Deadpool 2, Iron Man 3, Far From the Madding Crowd, Fahrenheit 451 (2018)
2:14:35 – Outro
2:22:00 – Spoiler Discussion: Solo: A Star Wars Story

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  • ah

    Been waiting for this episode to drop – only a few minutes in and it’s already SHAMAZING! Good work guys!

  • Falsk

    My God, I love this fucking show.

  • Andrew Lincoln

    I lost it when Reed referenced an Ann Landers column from the 70s.

  • Reed Farrington

    Nowadays, I don’t know whom on the Internet I can trust for etiquette rules.

  • ah

    Thanks Reed for mentioning my one-word review on twitter.

    Here’s an update: I got interrupted, back to listening to the show, half hour in now, still shamazing, but very dissapointed we didn’t get to hear your other stories. Stating that you have four stories and then only being allowed to tell one is the opposite of fan service by film junk…it’s fan disservice.

    #WeWantAllTheReedStories!
    #WhenDoWeWantThem?
    #AllTheTime!
    #WhatHappensIfWeDont’tGetThem?
    #HashtagsBitch!
    #LotsOfEm!
    #AndThenABCCancelsYourPodcast
    #That’sWhatHappens!
    #ThisIsYourFaultFilmJunk
    #YouDidThisToYourselves

  • Reed Farrington

    With Greg and Dax on the podcast, I realized the podcast would get too long already without my Bell rant. It’s a long rant that I’ll save for the next podcast. Hope I don’t forget too many details.

  • MartyMcFlyJr

    Social Justice Droid is the new Jar Jar.

  • ah

    #ReedJustSavedFilmJunkFromBeingCancelledByABC
    #LookingForwardToTheBellRant
    #AndDon’tForgetTheOthetStoriesToo
    #AndMakeSureYourBackOnSoon
    #PS
    #ILikedSoloToo

  • Samb

    Who won the backgammon game between Jay and Greg from 35:00 to 47:00?

  • Indianamcclain

    Jay was on point about Solo, as the new Star Wars films in general. Everything that was special about Star Wars was lighting in a bottle, and it’s impossible to constantly keep bringing certain elements together and expecting it to work in the same way that it did 40 years ago. The same can be said for every franchise that Hollywood is trying to reboot.

  • pcch7

    Good lord that clip sounded brutal. Allan Altright never felt right for me and this review is pretty much what I expected. Think I’ll skip Solo in the theatres

  • Reed Farrington

    But as a statement explaining why you don’t like Solo or why Solo did poorly at the Box Office, it doesn’t explain or add anything to the conversation. It’s the kind of vague statement that’s impossible to refute and is only supported by the failure at the box-office of a sequel like Solo. WTF!?!

  • Lori Cerny

    Reed,

    She probably held the door open for you so that you would be in front of her and not being so creepy behind her.

  • Lori Cerny

    We just can’t have nice things. I will miss the show, so wish it could be rebooted without Barr.

  • schizopolis

    Reed Farrington: “Everyyyone’s racist!!!!”

    Amen, brotha! Always thought racism should be treated like AA. Admit your problem, then you’ll be able to fix it. Everyone’s got it to a degree. Just because you no longer believe in 19th century slavery or 20th century segregation…and you gotta black friend from work, doesn’t mean you’re not a racist.

  • devolutionary

    Saw Jay’s tweet. Hope he’ll “Schrader uuuup” next week with his review of Mishima: A Life In Four Chapters. Possibly one of his best films that seldom gets discussed. Really good Phillip Glass score as well.

  • Tommy

    The start of this show couldn’t have been more perfect.

  • You guys are killing me with the Kessel run stuff. A parsec is a distance. The Kessel run is a distance from point A to point B. Han got from A to B in a shorter route than anyone has ever done it – 12 parsecs. It was actually explained pretty well. With the nav computer spoiler stuff

  • Matt the Kiwi

    Does that include all people from all races? If yes, then I tend to agree with you.

  • This was driving me crazy as they were talking about it!!! It was a little detail in the A New Hope that was always a nitpick and this movie explained it so cleverly.

  • Right? I don’t know how you could miss this point in the movie, it’s kind of a major plot point that they actually take time to explain.

    And it was actually explained in the Han Solo adventure books from the 80s as roughly the same thing – although those aren’t considered cannon anymore.

  • Dirk Gently

    So, after screwing up in the original film by confusing distance with time, and after decades of people pointing that out, they’ve tried to retcon their way out of it?

    Are we to believe Han was the first person to figure out the shortest distance between two points in space? (It’s a straight line, by the way). Did everyone before him just kinda meander around? Perhaps a few detours along the way? Those Parsecs really start to add up when you fly around in circles.

  • Fletcher Thomas

    That’s the way Matt. Never admit all white people are racist until it’s acknowledged all non-whites are racist too. Don’t show your cards too early. This is the internet.

  • Fletcher Thomas

    Sorry. My bad.

  • Did no one watch the movie? Yes it’s a straight line. But they make it very clear that you can only go certain routes through that area because of the “fog” and the obstacles (like the maw). Han is crazy enough and a good enough pilot that he goes straight through “the shit”.

    Also SPOILER:

    They upload that Droid’s consciousness into the Falcon. The Droid with the special navi computer. Which by the way, is mentioned in ESB when 3PO is trying to talk to it.

    Call it recon if you want, but A) I call it a pretty clever explanation B) how do we know Lucas didn’t intend something like this from the start? (note Obi-Wan’s expression in ANH when Han says he did it in 12 parsecs) and C) again, this explanation has been around for decades; extreme Star Wars fans have known about this since the books came out.

  • Sounds like that might actually be happening!

  • Maybe I’m putting my own knowledge as a bias here. Maybe it wasn’t explained that well in the movie and it just seems like it was because I already knew the explanation.

    I mean we have six guys reviewing the movie and not one of them picked up on this. So yeah, it’s definitely possible this is me projecting a knowledge bias.

    Similar to not one of them realizing that was Jon Favreau’s voice. I mean, that guy has a pretty distinct voice and has been in tons of movies for years and years.

  • While this is true to a point, this film felt a lot like original Star Wars. Probably the most like ANH than any of the other SW films since 1983.

    This is partly why I loved Solo so much. It was very simple and raw.

  • Lori Cerny

    Whether a parsec is time or distance is a moot point.

    In Ep. 4, Han says, ” It’s the SHIP that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs.”

    He never says that HE was flying the ship – which I think Han definitely would knowing his bravado throughout the series. So who actually flew the ship?

    The retcon will have to be retconned again!

  • Sean

    Clearly I am not an expert on this whole thing but as Andrew mentioned above they try to explain that part of the reason why the Falcon specifically was able to pull it off was because of nav computer (assisted by L3’s AI). So I guess you could argue that it was both his piloting skills and the ship itself that made that record breaking run possible. But I agree, the wording is still strange and there is a whole school of thought that Han was just making stuff up to sound cool and that it never made sense in the first place.

  • Sean

    And just because he says it was the ship that made the run doesn’t mean he wasn’t flying it. It’s more like he was showing off a piece of history.

  • Flo Lieb

    I took it that you couldn’t do the Kessel Run faster than in 20 Parsecs (so says Lando) if you follow the channels that everyone follows since the fog area is too dangerous. So no one ever made it from outside to the inside in less than 20 Parsecs. Han – or the Falcon – doing it in under 12 (rounding down) is solely because Han went a route no one takes which shortened the distance by 8 Parsecs. It’s not a cheat, like the guys claimed on the podcast. It’s saying “if you want to get to that bakery you have to walk 20 blocks – or 12 if you go through that dark alley with muggers, mines and whatnot”. So it’s less about how fast the Falcon can go (like it was something Nitro-infused car from the Fast & Furious series) and more what it can go through (in this case literally).

    Nonetheless, I don’t think the movie utilized the impending danger from the unstable fuel cells in regards of the distance that has to be covered fully. They made it sound like they essentially would have to warp to the refinery and eventually stayed a long time in and outside that area. Maybe portraying the fuel in a Wages of Fear way would’ve been a smarter – and more suspenseful – approach.

  • devolutionary

    So Reed is it any more valid to drop a star from your rating because the movie didn’t feature Thandie Newton’s full female form? Would it have been a 5-banger if she wasn’t in the film at all? What would you have done if she held the door open for you in your pretty woman story? Brain explosion?

  • newtaurus

    What a show, I don’t know where to begin.

    -I disagree with Dax saying people ragging on Episode VIII are going to see Solo anyway. That’s the issue here, clearly some of them stayed home. Unlike MCU fans SW fans actually give a s*** if the product sucks. They won’t support this franchise if they don’t like where it’s going. And there’s enough of them to affect ticket sales.

    -The pandering is a good point. I feel as if some of these things like a Maul cameo and the callbacks are there to distract from the faults of the film. Clowns like John Campea and Colldier thrive on this crap for some reason.

    -The Roseanne discussion brought up some good points but failed to bring up the double standard that some of us in the US feel is going on with media personalities and foul language (but that could be because you don’t get all the news we do). You’re not going to find too many people defending Roseanne but there are people who have made bad (if not worse) comments and have a history of repeating them that apparently get to keep their jobs that makes a lot of us scratch their heads.

  • Reed Farrington

    I think most Canadians get American TV channels, so those of us who pay attention to the news know what’s going on in America.

    Double standards or even multiple standards will always exist because higher level classes will always exercise their wills over the lower classes.

  • Reed Farrington

    No, it’s not valid to drop a star because the movie didn’t feature Thandie Newton’s full female form. I was being misogynistic and insensitive in an attempt to be amusing.

    Yes, it would have been a 5-banger if she wasn’t in the film at all.

    If Thandie Newton ever holds a door for me while being unclothed, my brain might indeed explode or at least I might get an aneurysm.

    BTW, I was just watching a feature on Batman Begins with David S. Goyer saying that everyone enjoys an origin story.

  • Reed Farrington

    I prefer the explanation that with that line of dialogue in which Han uses parsec as a unit of time, Lucas was indicating that Han is an idiot.

  • Matt the Kiwi

    But of course. Racism is negatively prejudging an individual, or a group, based purely on their race; so saying that just all white people are racist would be…racist. But as we’ve established, everyone is at least a little bit racist so it wouldn’t surprise me to hear people make that ironic claim. Hell, even Gandhi was racist so nobody seems to be able to fully escape that tribalism which evolution has written so deeply into our programming (lucky he didn’t have twitter). The trick is to constantly try and notice and consciously overcome that subconscious bigotry.

  • Beat_C

    “Unlike MCU fans SW fans actually give a s*** if the product sucks. They won’t support this franchise if they don’t like where it’s going.”
    And of course they know that it sucks withough having seen the movie … SW fans are the worst.
    oh, and the issue with roseanna was not “foul language” SMH

  • Beat_C

    comparing racism to alcoholism is … not very smart.

  • Beat_C

    also you’re obviously not caught up on season 2.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6HK4K9T19c

  • Beat_C

    fantastic episode. more guests please! will we ever get to hear the two policemen again? i miss them.

  • newtaurus

    Sigh.

    Star Wars fans went to see Episode VII. Some of them were not happy with the direction it went, but gave it a pass.

    Star Wars fans went to see Rogue One. Again, some of them were not happy with the direction it went, but gave it another pass.

    Star Wars fans went to see Episode VIII. Clearly a large number of them were unhappy with the direction it went and said “enough is enough.”

    Solo came out and all those fans who weren’t happy with Episode VII, Rogue One and Episode VIII said “f*** it.” This attitude of “how do you know it sucks if you haven’t seen it” is just nonsense, especially in a franchise with multiple movies and when we live in an age where you can watch trailers and interviews over and over again.

    As for my “foul language” comment, I’m sorry I didn’t feel like typing out “anti-gay”, “misogynist”, “racist”, “bigoted”, etc. and so forth to make my point (which you clearly don’t care about). Call the Semantic Police and I’ll pay the fine.

  • Reed Farrington

    Star Wars began its descent with Return of the Jedi, so Star Wars fans actually put up with a lot of crap. Ha ha. Just ragging on you, newtaurus.

  • Reed Farrington

    I only got the chance to see the first episode of Season 2 of Westworld.

    Loved what Thandie had to say. Robots wouldn’t care about being “naked.” (In reference to what she also says, I should check into a hospital.)

  • Right. Obi-Wan specifically asked Han “if it’s a fast ship.”

  • James Leggett

    Reed’s pretty woman story was hot af.

  • Kenneth Serenyi

    River Phoenix was a great young Indiana Jones, although he only had to carry about 10 minutes.

  • schizopolis

    Not sure if you are very smart. Step 1 can be applied effectively to many different things that have nothing to do with alcohol.

  • gibson8

    *paraphrase. ‘I did’t know network President’s had that much power’
    What did you think they did then? Check out the career history of any of the major network’s CEO’s and Pres. and all they are remembered for are the controversial cancellations and propitious green-lightings.