Film Junk Podcast Episode #652: Dark City

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0:00 – Intro: Show Format Discussion
33:20 – Retro Review: Dark City
1:17:10 – Other Stuff We Watched: Night of the Hunter, Abacus: Small Enough to Jail, Ricky Gervais: Humanity, The Tick: Season 1, Part 2
1:36:40 – Junk Mail: Funniest Movie Scenes of All Time
1:51:15 – This Week on DVD and Blu-ray
1:53:00 – Outro

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  • Getting a brand new episode Sunday night before bed, and it’s Junkpocalypse Now! https://i.imgur.com/Sqnoapc.gif

  • Matt the Kiwi

    My 2 cents worth regarding the show format: Do whatever the hell you guys want to keep yourselves interested and we’ll listen. Pretty sure I speak for most FJ fans when I say that we’d hate for 1 or some of you to get bored to the point where you thinking about calling it a day. I do still hope you see the occasional “garbage” new release at the theatres as those are some of the funniest discussions and I need my fix of angry Frank / nihilistic Jay and Sean the diplomat. Whatever you end up doing, I’ll definitely be listening.
    Another suggestion I’ll selfishly make – how about a ‘Fan Subscribes’ review? We all have movies that we love and it would make our day (week, month, year) to have our favourite podcasters dissect our favourite film and explain why it’s a piece of shit. Hell, I would pay good money to have your review a film of my choice on the show but perhaps that wouldn’t sit well with you morally inclined guys so perhaps a contest once a month? Or a quiz that only people that buy the premiums would know the answers to? In case you’re wondering, I really want Jay to watch Out of the Blue (a New Zealand film that is as close to United 93 as anything else I’ve ever seen) which you have on DVD somewhere Sean.

  • Samb

    Prescribing Frank, Convincing Sean, Mollifying Jay

  • welyyt

    I’m all for you guys doing whatever you want to keep yourselves interested; no need to suffer through Tomb Raider or whatever when you can revisit classics of cinema like John Carter. But seriously, if you guys have fun, we (the listeners) will most likely have fun listening to that stuff.

  • Lior

    Film Junk has been doing focused retro reviews for years, they are simply relegated to the premium podcast section.

    As for the main show, it’s good to shake things up once in a while. I feel this is something Jay is particularly interested in, he has been sounding less and less enthusiastic in the last few shows and showing signs of fatigue. But you also need to be careful to not make it too shapeless. Some framework is still needed to hang your conversations on (excuse the lame metaphor).

    I would ditch theatrical main review if nobody is interested in seeing the movie. You are not a formal film criticism show and can afford to not force yourself to see stuff. I would get rid of trailer discussion, it’s basically just reviewing marketing. you might as well review posters. All trailers look the same anyway. Just do it in case of a first look at something very special, like the new Star Wars movie in 20 years. I would even get rid of star ratings, they are superfluous and sometimes take over the show. Your opinions come through either way and if someone is really interested in your star rating they can check you out on Letterboxd. I think Chain Reaction should be a segment of the show. I think retro reviews should not bother with spoiler warnings to encourage free discussion. Enter at your own risk or watch the movie beforehand.

    Having said all that, I would love to hear your opinions on the new Tomb Raider, especially Frank’s! :-)

  • Lori Cerny

    “…how about a ‘Fan Subscribes’ review?”

    I asked FJ (Sean) a couple times over the years if a fan could fund a specific movie or premium. He turned me down graciously, thinking it would lead to the inmates taking over the prison.

  • Lori Cerny

    The whole “Format Discussion” topic seems like you guys just didn’t want to see Tomb Raider, and that’s okay.

    I hope you guys only review movies that you are genuinely interested in because I listen for the conversation and camaraderie.

  • J.C.
  • Matt the Kiwi

    That’s the answer I was expecting…but lets keep hammering away at him until we wear him down. Surely one a month would be survivable? Apparently he’s pretty compliant…whatever it takes, whatever it takes…

  • J.C.

    “Whoopsie” (Laurence Fishburne voice)…meant to say that the below post is Ebert reacting to the reaction of Knowing…interesting read.

  • Jon Woo

    I’m down for whatever makes you guys more enthused to do the show, you’re doing it in your free time after all. That being said, I’m bummed you guys stop doing theatrical reviews weekly right when I get my movie pass and can afford to do the same.

  • devolutionary

    Yeah, Ebert always had a hard-on for Proyas.
    Until recently, his career trajectory startlingly resembles Tarsem Singh’s. They both started out working on music videos, shorts, and production design. Both had a keen, unique, visual eye for cinematography and set-design. Churned out a couple of early, extremely promising films; graduated to big budget (blockbuster?) films that tanked or underperformed; eventually got swallowed up by big studios and critics, and ultimately ended up as also-ran directors who few people hold in high regard anymore.
    Except maybe Sean ;) For the record I borderline-love both of their first 2 films.

  • Lori Cerny

    Have you noticed any cons/negatives to using the service?

  • Jon Woo

    Not at all. I’ve spent $50 on the service and bought probably $500 worth of movie tickets. The theatre I go to charges $16 a ticket because L.A.

  • Lori Cerny

    Re: funniest scenes in movies.

    For me, most scenes of Jacques Tati portraying Monsieur Hulot. Or, Jacques Tati in any movie.

    Also, there’s an extended car chase in the 1964 Pink Panther movie, A Shot in the Dark, that keeps me in stitches every time I watch it.

    And, many scenes in the Monty Python movies. Biggus Dickus in Life of Brian is a must-see.

  • Kasper

    You guys should just do whatever you want, but with that said I am a bit weary of throwing out all the extra segments as they sometimes lead to fun moments. Sure, most of the time there’s nothing much to talk about with a trailer, but in that case it’s what, 2-3 minutes wasted? I think that’s totally worth it for the moments that are sometimes created out of nowhere from a trailer discussion, which are never deep or interesting, but are often times the really funny moments when Frank says something stupid or Jay starts talking nonsense to show his disinterest. The same applies to news. There’s no need to try and force a long conversation about random film news, but sometimes you strike gold from a seemingly random news story, so I personally think both segments should continue to exist but just be quickly brushed over if nothing of interest is generated when things are brought up on the show rather than trying to get water from a stone. They also don’t need to be there every week, completely breaking format for specific shows like Jay mentioned seems great.

  • Kasper

    Also, retro reviews are great and definitely spice up the show. Honestly, at this point I would rather have more retro reviews interspersed in the regular show and have you guys try out new angles for the premiums at times.

  • Lori Cerny

    How about a Terry Gilliam premium?

  • devolutionary

    To build on the Big Brother/Sci-Fi Noir vibe, at least a retro-review on “Brazil”, any/either versions.

  • pcch7

    IntervenSean

  • LordAwesome

    Trevor Jones premium?

    Excalibur
    Runaway Train
    Angel Heart
    Arachnophobia
    Last of the Mohicans
    Cliffhanger

  • nate_austin75

    Funniest movie scene – have to go with The ‘Burbs with the sequence of the neighbors finally formally meeting the Klopeks inside their house and being offered pretzels and sardines.

  • Kay Dizzle

    Do what you guys want to do. At this point I’m here for the personalities of the guys, the reviews are bonus. A lot of films today aren’t that great and I wouldn’t want to waste my time either. Do reviews that you guys want. Death Wish? naw, was not looking forward to it.

    I vote for a Rob Reiner retro review. maybe A few good men, or misery.

    Thanks guys

  • MartyMcFlyJr

    TV discussions should remain a part of the show. You guys have always included that. Frank’s crazy. Can you imagine if this “TV ban” had been in place during The Apprentice years??? I don’t even want to think about that.

  • Indianamcclain

    They already did a Misery review on the Stephen King premium.

  • Strybeck

    I like Jay’s general idea to make the format more flexible. I’m the kind of listener that will skip most the main review since I usually haven’t seen the new release (I’ll skip ahead to the star ratings). The discussion usually quickly goes to a place where it’s not interesting if I haven’t seen the film. I’ll go back to it months later once I catch up with it. I think retro reviews are lots of fun sprinkled in now and then – not always as re-watches. Some could be “list of shame” classics (or even from relatively recently) that are new to two or to all of you could be fun. I would be down for more top 5, top 25 list segments and definitely more score-bits. What we watched has always been my favorite part. I see no reason to limit the discussion to 2 films each, but that’s only because I like long shows and hearing about everything, good or bad. One more comment – I always think that having guests on keep things fresh. Even if it’s a different dynamic, I’m not opposed to guests via Skype if it gets someone good on who is excited to be there but can’t be there in person.

  • pcch7

    We need Alicia to come on and talk some tv

  • Nic

    I really like the idea of more retro reviews in the future but I just
    hope that you don’t simply talk about films from the 80s or 90s that you
    watched when you were kids/teenagers. While I definitely enjoy that I
    think that we get it enough
    from the premiums as it is. I would love
    to hear you talk about a classic Western or Noir or even a foreign film
    every once in a while. I enjoyed Sean talking about Stalker recently for
    example even if it wasn’t the most in-depth analysis ever. Sometimes it
    seems you guys are a little hesitant to review classics which I don’t
    get at all. The Hitchcock and the Lynch premium were great and I think
    most of the listeners would prefer your takes on “essential films” over
    some other critic’s.
    I wouldn’t like the show to turn from current
    run of the mill Hollywood garbage to 80s run of the mill genre films
    that you are mainly connected to because you happened to watch them at a
    young age.
    I still really enjoy the news segment and Junk Mail
    (primarily for the banter) but if you don’t care for them anymore or
    feel that it’s tiring I can understand that.

  • Alicia Dwyer

    I believe the discussion around preference of horror to comedy was in regard to film. I stand by my decision.

  • Jameson

    I definitely like the mixing of new releases and retro reviews. Maybe for each new release that you’re on the fence about reviewing you can do some sort of poll for everyone to see how many are actually interested/likely to see that film? That way it doesn’t feel like an obligation that most people are gonna tune in for.

    Whatever you guys end up doing we’ll keep listening!

  • bobsponge42
  • tyler mikol

    I love the way the show has been, with that being said I’m even more excited if you guys really go through with modifying things. Ideas like “prescribing Frank” “convincing Sean” and “retro reviews” sound amazing. All I ask is that you do let the junkers know as early as you can what you are doing for the show so we can watch along with you.

    I’d love you to incorporate Score Bits more and I love Lists so bringing in some top 5’s would be incredible. I also hope you guys do an updated episode on your top 100 lists some time.

    Maybe you can get Reed in there more often too. Review some of Reeds favorites like “My Sassy Girl”. More Dax and Matt Gourley would be rad as well. Though I know Matt is busy.

    As far as spoilers for retro reviews go,I have no problem with them. SPOIL AWAY BOYS!

    Basically you 3 are my bros and if the changes make you happier and more excited for the show then that will only produce better conversations so I’m all for it.

  • Oso Jugo

    Retro reviews are the way to go cause all Hollywood makes now is stupid hero trash. Last two reviews are the only ones I’ve listened to in some time because although I enjoy you three gentleman and your continuing adventures, I am completely indifferent to modern Hollywood trash.

  • tyler mikol

    An idea, maybe when you are planning to do a Retro Review the 3 of you can toss your own idea out there and make it into a Twitter Poll and the winner gets the review!

  • smitty

    I am fine with a move to Content Junk if it gives Jay a chance to have a segment of “What I Watched On YouTube”.

  • Jake

    I have no problems with change, but please tell me we will still be getting an Infinity War review with Dax and Greg in attendance??

  • Peter Harrison

    I find it hard to believe that the king has not seen Life of Brian. It was voted the funniest film ever, it is a true classic. This is a huge oversight on Frank’s part. Pleeeeeease make Life of Brian the first new Prescribing Frank. I think he’ll love it, there are so many classic scenes.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1357415/Life-of-Brian-voted-funniest-film-ever.html

  • Aaron

    Speaking of dinner scenes, I’d include the one from What About Bob? as one of the funniest.

  • Matt the Kiwi

    Not sure if this is my pick for funniest movie scene but it was the first one that came to mind (yes, Money Pit isn’t brilliant but it has some absolute physical comedy gems that you never see anything like in modern comedies):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CJ9EDtZ2p8

  • Justin Kinzer

    Change is scary. But I am a junker for life. Long live Content Junk!

  • Lior

    Oh, I love The Money Pit and this is the best scene in the movie. Brilliant performance by Hanks, and Shelley Long with that look on her face complements him superbly.

  • Lior

    Film Junk crew in general have a Monty Python blind spot, it has been documented many times… I agree Frank would love it.

  • Kyle Grimes

    Jay hit the nail on the head. Who cares about the format as long as the discussion is good.

  • Puzzy Cutz

    Using the currently released movie as a header, does place the podcast in a useful context. So, even if only Frank sees “GAME NIGHT” call the ep, “Game Night” and then spend 4 mins on it before going to the retro review or other juicy meat.

    It’s also fun to finally get around to a movie, maybe months later, and be able to re-listen to what FILMJUNK had to say, so I’d love it if you could at least touch movies even if you don’t linger.

  • Pasta_Bear

    Whatever keeps you guys motivated to enjoy making the podcast is fine with me.

  • Matt the Kiwi

    Phew! I thought it was just me :-)

  • Sean

    Yes, that will still happen (assuming Dax and Greg are available).

  • Sean

    A Few Good Men could be up for a 4K review.

  • Sean

    We just don’t want to be in a position where we are absolutely obligated to review something, especially if someone paid for that specific review. Plus you know, if we don’t like it and people really hoped we would, that could be awkward as well. But keep the suggestions coming, it’s always nice to get a sense of what people want to hear!

  • Tim

    As I get nearer to death I find myself less interested in corporate Hollywood franchises, but I still listen to all your reviews, maybe because I like to hear Jay throwing shade (ala ‘Marvel movies look televisual’). Very excited for the format adjustment you outlined! Thanks for doing the work to keep this going!