Film Junk Podcast Episode #648: Black Panther


0:00 – Intro
18:30 – Review: Black Panther
57:30 – Headlines: The Incredibles 2 Trailer, Uncle Drew Trailer
1:12:10 – Other Stuff We Watched: The Post, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri, Dunkirk, Darkest Hour, Roman J. Israel, Esq., The Disaster Artist, Looper, Jim & Andy: The Great Beyond – Featuring a Very Special, Contractually Obligated Mention of Tony Clifton, Bright, Pirates of The Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales, Dredd, Crazy Heart, The B-Side: Elsa Dorfman’s Portrait Photography, The Silence of the Lambs
1:38:30 – Junk Mail: Favourite African-American Actors, Sequels By Name Only, Frank’s Selective Spoiler Sensitivity, Watching Movies on Planes
2:09:10 – Outro
2:14:15 – Spoiler Discussion: Black Panther

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  • pcch7

    Nice. This will get me through some work tonight

  • devolutionary

    It’s awesome to have the core Film Junk family here. Although wouldn’t Reed have been the sober “drunk” uncle if he made it?

  • Larry Morgan

    Got so used to the 3 sans-guests that it’s almost jarring to hear Dax and Greg

    still good

  • Thom

    Chiwetel Ejiofor is not African American :-)

  • Sean

    Haha true, fair point! Neither is Idris Elba for that matter.

  • Indianamcclain

    There really is something to be said for the overwhelming critical acclaim Black Panther has received. Some people have even gone so far as to call it a “masterpiece”. How low is the bar for great superhero movies?

  • bobsponge42

    Better watch out for the CoPO after this one fellas.

  • Kay Dizzle

    respect that no one went full CoPo with their scores. wonderwonder 2.0

  • rusinchicago

    wow?! you guys pissed the bed on this one. perfect blend of a real villain that addresses both the film’s ‘physical’ and ‘spiritual’ dilemmas. great set pieces and use of all side characters. you guys spend so much time talking about sound and sets?! micheal b jordan’s villain is cartoony? wow, just wow

  • pcch7

    Quite low. I thought both Wonder Woman and Spider-Man were fairly overrated last year.They were both decent but got praised to the sky by the masses.

  • pcch7

    Could be a Baby Driver situation here lol. I haven’t watched the movie but the hype seems a bit too good to be true

  • Tommy

    I’m sure it wasn’t on purpose, but it was almost like everyone on the pod went out of their way to not mention the female cast in Black Panther :/

  • Indianamcclain

    Completely agree about Spider-Man: Homecoming, and Wonder Woman. Both are fun movies, but nothing spectacular.

    The Dark Knight, X2, and Spider-Man 2 are my bar for great comic book superhero films. Very few films from the past ten years are on the level of those movies. For me Days of Future Past, and Logan have been the only ones since The Dark Knight that I’ve loved.

  • Indianamcclain

    True. However, let’s face it, Frank had a two star agenda.

  • Lior

    Hey, I still listen to commentaries while watching the movie. Who’s with me here? Show yourselves.
    I don’t know any other way. Rip it from the disc and listen to it while jogging? No thanks.
    Especially when it’s a scene-specific one, it doesn’t make sense to just listen to it, unless you really know the movie by heart.

  • Glen

    I use to listen to Ronald D. Moore’s “Battlestar Galactica” podcast commentaries on my iPod. I would watch the episode and then a few days/weeks later play the commentaries while hiking.

  • Glen

    I wonder if the praise for “Black Panther” is country specific.
    Does United States have more positive reviews than Canada or European countries because we don’t have a history of race relations with African American? Is the US over compensating?
    I don’t know.

  • Lior

    Maybe this works if the commentary is separate from the film, i.e, instead of appearing on disc it can be downloaded separately. But for me a commentary is an alternative/enhanced way to *watch* a film. Once detached from it, it becomes another podcast. I find it less immersive. If I’m not seeing the visuals in front of me, my mind tends to wander.

  • pcch7

    Loved Jay’s live instagram stream btw. Seeing how the magic is done is always fun

  • Jake

    I checked his instagram but couldn’t see the video. Is there anyway to watch that?

  • pcch7

    Probably too late now. I was just randomly on instagram on monday and saw he was going live

  • Jameson

    There definitely feels like an agenda for these movies to be universally beloved. I was rather let down by Black Panther simply because it felt like a below-average superhero film. Doesn’t hold a candle to Logan or The Dark Knight.

  • Larry Morgan

    Michael B Jordan has been great in his movies.

  • devolutionary

    Just rewatched his doc with commentary last night and I can safely say that a majority of it wouldn’t make any sense without movie accompaniment. Unless you have a temporal photographic memory.

  • What’s your beef with “The Good Dinosaur”? I thought it was pretty great. It’s super weird and looks really nice. And legit funny.

  • Jonnie123

    I hated Black Panther. I just don’t understand how this dull and patronising film is getting the critical response it is. The bar is truly lowered.

  • Samb

    Would pay $1 for table read of Prince of Darkness, w/Reed delivering “Have you seen Susan? Radiologist? Glasses?” line.

    The John Larroquette reference along with Jay’s recent rant about produced podcasts reminds me that I think he’d like the Uhh Yeah Dude podcast. 12 years going, no wannabe comedian guests (no guests at all), just two old friends (one of whom is Jonathan, son of John) who abandoned their Hollywood aspirations long ago, although they still live there, and sit in co-host Seth Romatelli’s living room for an hour a week shooting the shit. They have distinctive voices, no ad reads, and are both earnest and cynical.

  • Mister Quigley Jr.

    The “Roseanne” reboot is fast approaching, fellas. Give us at least five minutes on each episode, please.

  • Fletcher Thomas

    Yaphet Kotto!!!!!

  • bendoofus

    Frank didn’t say what he thought of Twin peaks the return…

  • Carlos

    Would love to hear Reed next week for ‘Annihilation’!

  • Indianamcclain

    I can’t see him enjoying it.

  • Indianamcclain

    My problem with praising above average films like this is that it’s probably going to encourage more movies where it’s art by commiteee, or just middle of the road.

  • I’ll just drop this here. For a minimum donation of just a dollar, you can hear the Film Junk family talk about family fast and furiously…

  • bendoofus

    That’s why I wanted to hear what he had to say!

  • tyler mikol

    The only girl worth mentioning is Black Panthers sister who is ok. I don’t think these dudes went out of their way to disregard the women. The films sucks anyway.

  • tyler mikol

    I think I’ve been lulled under a spell by marvel. I’ve praised their last few films because they were “new” and “different”. My eyes are being opened. In reality everything marvel does is by design. Their films are boxed in. It’s sad. I really am angry. Out of all studios in the world marvel has the most money to play with. It’s because all mouth breathers will go see this trash and pay. Every douche with their pencil lined beard and their ugly girlfriends are Paying to see this. I’m done.

    Wanna know the sad part? I know I will see the new Avengers. On prewatch it’s a light 2.

    By the way, Black Panther sucks. I’m giving them a break with 2 stars.

  • pcch7

    I see Batman Begins got a 5/5 for the 4k quality on Didn’t Jay have some criticism of it?

  • polar909

    I’m all in for some table reads and audio commentaries as premium episodes.

  • Beat_C

    i recently listened to reed’s delivery of “gone with the wind”, directed by matt gourley – it was amazing. could definitely do with more of this stuff.

  • Jared M

    It’s ok to be wrong, I forgive you guys…maybe you’re just out of touch with other cultures and can’t relate, especially in regards to the humor. But the overall negativity coming from the cast towards the film is off base.