Film Junk Podcast Episode #618: Baby Driver and Okja

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0:00 – Intro
7:50 – Review: Baby Driver
40:48 – Review: Okja
1:01:45 – Other Stuff We Watched: GLOW
1:07:40 – Junk Mail: Water Phobias, Creative Freedom Within Franchises, Directors Who Worked as Their Own DP, Netflix Movies on Blu-ray, Dating as a Film Snob, What to Wear to a Hans Zimmer Concert
1:50:50 – This Week on DVD and Blu-ray / Outro
1:53:50 – Spoiler Discussion: Baby Driver
2:03:00 – Spoiler Discussion: Okja

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  • Lori Cerny

    You guys are awesome. Thank you so much for this and all your work.

  • YES!, i l knew you guys wouldn’t let me down. Baby Driver is all hype, critics need a slap.

  • The Fan

    I enjoyed baby driver. Got pretty much exactly what I was expecting. If you’ve seen the trailer than you know the movie is largely centered around a gimmick. The gimmick just happen to work for me.

  • Brian.M

    A very chipper Sean at 00.40 in made me really look forward to this ep. Thanks guys.

  • Corey Pierce

    Maron is great in GLOW. He grows over the course of the series. Most of them do, with room for everyone to grow in future seasons since time is getting doled out amongst so many people.

  • Loy Ronyr

    You can just feel the chipperness in Sean’s voice. Ouch. Had me tantalized from the first words you gentlemen spoke. I always listen to these podcast naked. Thank you so much for this….

  • mike

    Jay’s sumptuous voice had me squealing with tears of delight and pleasure from 1:34 to 17:03. You boys have done it again.

  • Sean

    Good to hear, I look forward to seeing the rest of the season at some point.

  • kyri
  • pcch7

    I finished GLOW this weekend, thought it was pretty good. Fairly funny overall, Brie is great

  • pcch7

    I honestly had no idea who this guy was or that he was anything other than some normal actor until I listened to the podcast today. For me he’s been solid throughout the season but I obviously don’t know what he’s like generally

  • devolutionary

    His typical schtick not completely unlike his real self is a bitter, jaded, self-centered a-hole with wit and insight. Or “alt-comedy” in Jay’s books.

  • Jameson

    Could not disagree more about Baby Driver, but good review nonetheless.
    It’s interesting that you bring up Drive because, while I like Drive and Ryan Gosling in it, I’m glad Baby Driver didn’t copy the stoic silent character who never emotes. I found it refreshing when he starts jamming out to the music at the beginning. I saw that as him just being a kid rather than trying to seem super cool.

  • Sam

    It is interesting to see Maron become less bitter over the past few years after finding success with his podcast. I still find him entertaining, but it is nice to hear him actually sound happy from time to time.

    Obviously, nothing should be just handed to you in life, but I can understand his bitterness. Imagine if practically everyone of your work colleagues, in his case fellow comedians, shot right past you in career success, and some not half as funny as Maron. But It finally did work out for him, which is good.

  • James

    Film Junk once again proves that this podcast is the perfect venue for me to both increase my appreciation of film aesthetics while simultaneously contemplating the humour of three lovely gentlemen. Film Junk is my life.

  • Sam

    I enjoyed Baby Drive a lot, but have to admit felt a slight panic come over me at that opening scene. I thought for a moment he would be signing every song throughout the movie like that.

  • schizopolis

    I think Okja is more effective than a cgi pig or cow because he’s a fictitious animal that’s shown as intelligent. There’s also a family scene at the end that I think proves his kind might be the same, which opens up the idea of human cruelty towards beings with intelligence and consciousness.

  • devolutionary

    Not gonna lie, there was a moment in the 3rd act where I was hoping that Tilda Swinton’s Mirando character would reveal that her sister was in fact a split personality. But that was a bridge too far.

  • kevin d

    The creature design was completely underdeveloped if not completely overblown. This is typical of your comments that you never step back and fully appreciate the scope of the entire film. Stop fixating on the unconscious aspects and look deeper.

  • Samb

    I liked Baby Driver okay, but I found it sort of fraudulent in the same ways that you described. Agreed about the sound mix, as well — I thought it might just have been my theater, but I wanted the car chases to thump quite a bit more. As an Atlantan, I will say the city-as-itself featured much more prominently than most Atlanta-filmed movies, which I liked a lot. You gotta go all the way back to “Sharkey’s Machine” for a movie quite as downtown-ATL-centric.

  • Len F.

    Love that clip from Okja. I listened to it three times.

  • schizopolis

    A couple of paradoxical statements there. So I guess, it’s sarcasm?

  • pcch7

    It was a nice throwback to the clips of old, like the Wall-E clip. That was a classic

  • Samb

    I thought he was well-cast, and he has his moments later on. The whole thing would be pretty forgettable if not for Alison Brie, who is amazing. Hang in there for when she starts to develop her wrestling character and interacts with the “crowds”.

  • pcch7

    she really shines in the last few episodes I thought. I wanted more when it ended, which is good I suppose

  • Karl with a K

    It isn’t a Beck song that Lily James’ character turns Baby onto. They do talk about Beck, but it is B-A-B-Y by Carla Thomas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNnNLBteKeo

  • LordAwesome

    Bunch of Tarantino fanboys jealous that there’s a new kid on the block putting out better movies than anything he’s has in 20 years!

  • Jameson

    I’m surprised there was no mention that both Baby Driver and Okja clocked in under 2 hours (pretty sure Okja was 1hr 50min without end credits). Figured that would bump up a half star rating for both.

  • Bizzaro Nate

    Some fans should really make a Film Junk Animated Clip Show. Jay’s Rob Zombie impression had me cracking up so much I almost became a road hazard while driving, I’d love to see bits like that cartoonified!

  • Sam

    The Beck song was “Debra” that Baby mentioned to Deborah. So he was recommending Beck to her.

  • pcch7

    Like the Ricky Gervais podcast? I would so watch that

  • Karl with a K

    They were discussing on the show a song that Debora (Lily James) recommended to Baby. She is singing the Carla James song in the diner and Baby asks her what it is. He then goes and buys the record. Similar to ‘Jackie Brown’ with Pam Grier and Robert Forster. Baby and Debora discuss songs written about ‘Debora’s, and mention Beck and the T.Rex song.

  • Bizzaro Nate

    Haha yeah just short 30sec clips though, a lot of podcast fans do them for other shows. They’re especially funny when they’re made for rants or hypothetical whimsical scenarios and “what if” conversations.

  • Nate

    love, love, love to hear my little boys this week. good episode, boys. and by the way, keep up the good work. love my little boys.

  • Jim O

    100% agree. I was in work when I heard that part and I had to run to the bathroom to take care of myself. Jay has done it again.

  • Firstly, I’d like to say thank you for reading my letter. Secondly, I’d like to clarify that I’m not looking for Mr Right. Relationships are the Brett Ratner of human objectives – existing only due to the decision-making of individuals who possess more money and power than common sense. I’m actually looking for a new posse of Film Tragi-Bros or even Bro-ettes (both open-minded and a modern woman). And why Frank? Well, perhaps on a subconscious level, it’s the way he uttered the word “qualitative” during the Fifty Shades podcast. Mainly, it’s because he is in my opinion, the Trading Places…nay, the Problem Child 2, nay, the Peanut Butter Solution of Film Tragi-Bros: a ton of fun, not quite sure why… Thirdly, sit-rep (situation report) – applied your sage advice today at the pub, asking the busboy where he got his They Live t-shirt from. He replied, “ummm…the Internet? Why? Have you seen the film?” I responded with a shoulder drop and an ‘are you crazy?’ head tilt. Realising my ‘mise-en-scene’ faux pas, I recovered with “the last line is awesome”. His face lit up, then he exclaimed, “yeah, it’s cracker, eh!” Baby steps, gents. Meantime, I am officially ‘swiping right’ on Jay’s Rob Zombie impression (yeyah!!) Oh, and fingers firmly crossed for July 20 ;)

    Vanessa Jean B, PhD

  • Falsk

    Ladies and gentlemen of the podcast… I come before you today a changed nerd. Three years of Japanese in college, a rough understanding of katakana, and it’s been staring me in the face TIME AND TIME AGAIN yet still–STILL!–I arrogantly CAST ASIDE the “zi” for a more palatable “gi”. It was only today, during yet another boring ass commute that I chose to fully analyze the Ghibli bumper and learn of my folly.

    It’s a scary world now. What of “Ghirardelli”?! What of my very grasp of basic phonetics?! WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE?!

    All I know is it’s because of Film Junk that I’ve come to this pivotal moment in my life. Hold your loved ones close tonight and for GOD’S SAKE make sure you have a comfortable grasp of hard vs soft G’s.

    Thank you.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ae09831cea463d4d3e79c860cadaa7d983b2aad022c6d665e25ec1c1e6b1fad0.jpg

  • Firstly, I’d like to say thank you for reading my letter. Secondly, I’d like to clarify that I’m not looking for Mr Right. Love is the Brett Ratner of human objectives. I’m actually looking for a new posse of Film Tragi-Bros/Bro-ettes (both open-minded and a modern woman). Why Frank? Perhaps on a subconscious level, it’s the way he uttered the word “qualitative” during the Fifty Shades podcast. Mainly, it’s because he is in my opinion, the Trading Places…nay, the Problem Child 2, nay, the Peanut Butter Solution of Film Tragi-Bros: a ton of fun, not quite sure why… Thirdly, sit-rep (situation report) – applied your sage advice today at the pub, asking the busboy where he got his They Live t-shirt from. He replied, “ummm…the Internet? Why? Have you seen the film?” I responded with a shoulder drop and an ‘are you crazy?’ head tilt. Realising my silent ‘mise-en-scene’ faux pas, I recovered with “the last line is awesome”. His face lit up, then he exclaimed, “yeah, it’s cracker, eh!” Baby steps, gents. Meantime, I am officially ‘swiping right’ on Jay’s Rob Zombie impression (yeyah!!) Oh, and fingers firmly crossed for July 20 ;)

    Vanessa Jean B, PhD

  • Falsk

    In retrospect, I think this may have all started because of my disgust in the word “giblet”.

  • iammattz

    While I don’t totally agree with you, I was thinking that QT might have given Baby Driver his annual “Nice Try” award if he wasn’t such a close friend of Edgar Wright.

  • Professor Sholo

    I am positively overjoyed to find another who appreciates not only the spectrum of vocabulary at my disposal, but also the ability to type long paragraphs of information. My best of wishes to you on your film journey. Remember, simply a plethora of films are our rhes subconsciously reconsteuwing tje blasé nutus ofricnemk lsksmsnnsbdbdbbvb

  • devolutionary

    Hopefully you’re not looking for Mr. Wrong either. That movie was a dumpster fire and hurt my brain trying to process its logic.

  • Kyle S.

    Just because you liked baby driver that makes you an idiot it somehow stupid?? That’s ridiculous. I liked the movie and that is my own opinion. Just because I liked it doesn’t mean that I am some how inferior to you. I am your equal if not better in some aspects. I think there should at least be more thought given to open-mindedness here and not just saying that everyone who disagrees with you is somehow less human and less deserving of respect. Sorry that this comment was so long.

  • Nick

    Not sure what you are responding to but if it is the show itself, then you need to understand that they are just kidding around. Having a bit of fun. It’s part of the jargon.

  • Kyle S.

    I understand that a podcast needs to be funny but shaming another’s opinion just for laughs is a step too far. I am not saying Film Junk is a bad podcast I am just saying that in this particular instance that a line was crossed in my opinion.

  • Mr. Write, if anything. Or Mr. Nobody. A misunderstood tour de force ;)

  • I can’t help imagine you writing this with your tongue planted firmly in your cheek and your eyebrows darting about wildly… I too am impressed by your wit, and wish you well on your film journey.

  • Frank Booth

    I don’t know what the hell is going on, but the comments for this particular episode and the Edgar Wright premium (both here and on Reddit) have me convinced that at least half of Film Junk listeners are having a really bad week or are absolutely insane.

    That or I’m having a stroke.

  • Nobody

    I did find one scene in Okja with Jake Gyllenhaal very funny, when he tries to assert himself in front of Tilda Swinton and uses a guy’s head to lean on and then tries to sit in an occupied chair. I wanted more of that, although I also liked the way he altered his voice if he was on camera or had an audience.

    The movie had a bunch of great moments that stuck out, like Mija launching herself into the glass. The rescue/chase scene in the middle was way better than anything in Baby Driver. Jamie Foxx’s character may have been a scumbag in that one, but I would’ve been okay with him killing off all the other characters.

  • Deven Science

    I can say that Ghirardelli Chocolates are made a stone’s throw from me, and around here, we pronounce it “Gear-a-deli.”