Film Junk Premium Podcast #49: The X-Men Franchise

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There’s a war coming… are you sure you’re on the right side? With the impending release of X-Men: Apocalypse, we finally decided to revisit all five of the main X-Men films from their big screen debut in 2000 through to Bryan Singer’s triumphant return to the franchise 14 years later with X-Men: Days of Future Past. We discuss the state of comic book movies in the late ’90s, the social and political undertones of the series, timeline inconsistencies, the changing fashion trends and even the Hollywood scandal that Bryan Singer was allegedly involved in. So is X-Men: First Class a soft reboot or a prequel? Is the young X-Men cast an improvement on the originals? Is X-Men: The Last Stand really as bad as everyone says it is and, if so, is Brett Ratner to blame? Strap on Cerebro and read our minds with this month’s premium podcast below.

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  • Flo Lieb

    Totally pumped for this! X-Men are my favorite comic book property.

  • schizopolis

    No Dax?? He’s the resident Marvel fanboy. Is he strictly MCU?

  • Sam

    Another bewilderingly solid premium. Thanks guys!

  • devolutionary

    Looking forward to that Jay deepcut of “God Loooooves, Man Kiiiiiills!”. Preferably in Brian Cox’s singing voice to the theme of X-Men Last Stand.
    Wonderful premium. Can never get enough of JC’s Renditions.

  • devolutionary

    Maybe he lost his critiquing powers like Mystique and the crew discarded him like Magneto did.

  • schizopolis

    Frankie got bleeped a few times during the X3 discussion. Sean, you gonna leave us hanging??? C’mon bro!

  • Sam

    I’m guessing Frank did the editing for this premium.

  • schizopolis

    The Rogue Cut of DOFP is totally worth watching. The theatrical version does flow better, but the Rogue Cut does add her character as an integral part of the upgraded sentinel program set in the future. So we know the sentinels’ powers come from both Mystique and Rogue. The new version has a few extra character moments too.

    Also, I don’t totally agree that Magneto turning his back on Mystique in X3 is unearned. In DOFP, Magneto straight up goes “rogue” in Paris and tries to kill Mystique, instead of trying to redeem her with Charles. That’s after a love triangle and a friendship. That’s twice he betrays her, both played by different actors. The mofo has no loyalties. Just driven to put mutants on top of the food chain.

  • Indianamcclain

    I agree with Jay, the Phoenix theme in X3 is awesome.

  • j-diggle

    No mention of the awesome music sting from the first two movies when Mystique would show up? Top of my top 5 list, definitely

  • Flo Lieb

    That was my though, too. Dax seems to be MCU-exclusive.

  • Nick Poliskey

    I HATE X-men…but I will watch them all because I love the Filmjunk premiums!

  • Maik

    Cheel Letterboxd:

    “Deliver Us from Evil” : ****

    “West of Memphis” : **** 1/2

    “An Open Secret” : !!NOT INTERESTED!!

    The logic of a Singer-head, Amy Berg,

  • Christopher Quack

    Does anyone know why when I download a premium episode to my phone the chapters all become jumbled? so 1 will lead into 5, then back to 3, then 4, then 2.

  • kent88

    When Mike D’Angelo reviewed the film for A.V. Club (http://www.avclub.com/review/amy-bergs-open-secret-mishandles-deadly-serious-is-220230) he mentioned this in the comments:

    “Bryan Singer is also mentioned, but only in passing by way of his
    connection to the main villains. There’s no suggestion in the film that
    he abused anybody, presumably because that lawsuit was ultimately
    dropped.”

    Why do you think watching this documentary would change a Singer-head like Jay?

  • Kenneth Serenyi

    Check out episode 467 for Dax and Reed’s take on Days of Future Past and the X-Men franchise.

  • Kenneth Serenyi

    In Days of Future Past, it made no sense that the Sentinels were based on Mystique’s DNA, since her powers are just shape-shifting and not imitating other Mutant powers. It would make more sense if the Sentinels were based on Rogue’s DNA instead. I suppose they needed more of an excuse to give J-Law a bigger role since she was a rising star at the time. Do I remember right that Frank made a big deal about the beginning of X2 not making sense because he didn’t understand how Nightcrawler’s actions fit into the plot? Now that scene is in Frank’s Top 5.

  • Theo

    Great premium, cheers guys.

    I look forward to hearing your thoughts about X-men Apocalypse. Based on the trailer the thing looks like an episode of Stargate SG1.

  • Sean

    Forgot to mention this. The Rogue Cut kind of addresses this indirectly because they have captured Rogue, which means they could have been using her DNA for the sentinels as well (they don’t actually say this as far as I can recall, but it’s possible).

  • Sean

    Jay and Frank both watched it and discussed it on the premium.

  • Andrija

    “Strap on Cerebro and read our minds with this month’s premium podcast below.”

    I just love it when you come up with this stuff Sean. 5/5

  • At least in the comics, Rogue doesn’t copy other’s abilities, she steals their life-force, which is intimately connected to the mutant’s power.

    I guess one could argue that Trask wasn’t just able to copy Mystique’s shape-shifting ability, but also modify it to also be able to copy abilities. Trask is supposed to be a genius after all.
    But this isn’t explicitly said in the movie, so you can of course make up any explanation you want :P

  • Kenneth Serenyi

    ‘Days of Future Past’ had one of my favorite trailers of all time with music from the movie ‘Sunshine’.

  • Larry Morgan

    X-MEN APOCALYPSE low-key most worthless movie of all time. What a travesty.

  • ah

    Great premium. Really enjoyed rewatching all of these films and glad you guys didn’t hate on The Last Stand, which I enjoyed the first time I watched it and it stood up on rewatch like all the X Men films seem to. My order of preference would be: DoFP, X-Men, X2, The Last Stand, Apocalypse, First Class, although the bottom three are pretty much equal and can move around on any given day. Agree with Frank that it’s difficult to top the X Men series within the comic book film genre.

  • Public Opinion

    How is Frank not a gutless coward for bleeping a joke on a premium?